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Templario 
An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 9:54:42
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I see that an interesting x86 board Rasbery Pi style to run AROS directly, Amiathlon or Winuae hosted under Windows ir Linux.

https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/rock-pi-x-an-x86-computer-in-raspberry-pi-form-factor
I think it is a good solution for AROS x86 run directly instead of one Virtual Machine.

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paolone 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 11:18:37
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@Templario

Yes, it seems a quite nice x86 board to run AROS on, but obviously you need to code drivers for networking, graphics and maybe even sound. But VESA mode, SATA and USB might work properly at once. The only way to be sure is getting one and trying AROS on it.

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Templario 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 14:13:24
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@paolone
The price is good 39 dolars, only the hard work to make the drivers.
We wait the board will be popular than Raspberry and it could be the new Amiga hardware for little money.

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Amigamia 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 15:26:49
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@Templario

there is an intel SBC on Amazon already and for a bargain price of $34. I think this also is a nice board for AROS if drivers can be developed for it of course!

Atomic Pi

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bison 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 16:07:44
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@Templario

If it does work, it would certainly benefit the AROS project to have a hardware reference board that is both inexpensive and currently in production.

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Skateman 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 16:14:29
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@Amigamia

Check out the review of this board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpMhsrsiV6Y

This board is already EOL...and build for industrial robot use. (See around 14:10 what the board realy is about)

Dont waste any development time on this board.

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Amigamia 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 3-Oct-2020 22:42:38
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@Skateman

Ahh what a shame!! It is quite a good SBC for the price. Oh well! waiting for next great Intel SBC or AROS on Raspberry Pi.

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Hammer 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 4-Oct-2020 15:48:32
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@Templario

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/axiomtek-capa13r-amd-ryzen-radeon-vega-raspberry-pi

Axiomtek's embedded Ryzen APU in Pi form factor. AMD's V1807B or Ryzen V1605B APUs were used for AMD's Pi.

https://au.pcmag.com/news/65999/dfi-selects-amd-ryzen-chip-for-new-raspberry-pi-sized-computer

DFI's AMD Ryzen APU for Raspberry Pi-Sized computer.

The PC clone wars...

Last edited by Hammer on 04-Oct-2020 at 03:52 PM.

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Templario 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 4-Oct-2020 17:57:15
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@Hammer
Thank you, yes this look the mini pc clon wars, it is good for the users, now we need the AROS in our
case.

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matthey 
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Posted on 4-Oct-2020 21:31:41
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Quote:

Hammer wrote:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/axiomtek-capa13r-amd-ryzen-radeon-vega-raspberry-pi

Axiomtek's embedded Ryzen APU in Pi form factor. AMD's V1807B or Ryzen V1605B APUs were used for AMD's Pi.

https://au.pcmag.com/news/65999/dfi-selects-amd-ryzen-chip-for-new-raspberry-pi-sized-computer

DFI's AMD Ryzen APU for Raspberry Pi-Sized computer.


I'm not so sure the CAPA13R is in the same class as the Raspberry Pi 4.

Pi4 6.25W max
CAPA13R@2GHz 30W max

Pi4 85.6mm x 56.5mm = 4,836
CAPA13R 146mm x 104mm = 15,104

Pi4 $35 min
CAPA13R ?

Power draw of the CAPA13R is nearly 5 times and board area over 3 times that of the Pi 4. The Pi 4 is easily fanless which cuts end user cost and increases reliability, especially for embedded use. CAPA13R will likely be significantly more expensive as well. CAPA13R performance will no doubt out class the Pi 4 and likely offer a better end user experience for a PC user but the Pi 4 will remain the choice for most embedded applications and price conscious consumers who are satisfied with the performance and features.

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The PC clone wars...


These SBCs are more of a mini-PC and embedded clone war. Competition here needs to do more with less as Moore's Law comes to an end. Sadly these systems look fat compared to the 68k Amiga.

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Re: An interesting x86 board
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WILL IT RUN BLACKFA(N)G????




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billt 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 6-Oct-2020 16:13:24
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@Templario

Neat idea, but I found 4gb unusable for windows last time I was in that state.

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Templario 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 6-Oct-2020 17:21:49
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@billt
It was though for some Linux distro.
But for a future AROS for these boards wtih 4 GB will be perfect.

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Hammer 
Re: An interesting x86 board
Posted on 9-Oct-2020 1:16:38
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@matthey
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=243414
Pi 4's H264 decoder is the same as Pi 3 which is limited to 1080p60.

Pi 4 has Broadcom BCM2711, Quad-core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8)

https://hothardware.com/reviews/huawei-mate-8-review?page=6
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited physics: 14566

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https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo-ThinkPad-A285-Ryzen-5-Pro-Vega-8-FHD-Laptop.384221.0.html
Ryzen 2500U very simlar to V1605B APU
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited physics: 34587

2500U and V1605B has 12 W and TDP-up of 25 W configurabale.

2500U has been replaced by 3500U and 4500U.

Last edited by Hammer on 09-Oct-2020 at 01:22 AM.
Last edited by Hammer on 09-Oct-2020 at 01:19 AM.

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