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Birbo 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 13-Oct-2020 8:12:44
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Great work!

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 13-Oct-2020 21:09:53
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Great OS and great new browser, thank you developers!

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 14-Oct-2020 0:11:25
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It is an amazing feat that one programmer (with some help from Piru), could get us a brand new, written from scratch, web browser,


That's,.... err,...... let's say "creative".

It's only one developer if you disregard the hundreds of people that wrote the actual browser and %99 of the dependencies.

Kudos to the people that bought this code that hundreds of other people wrote to MOS, but it's not even remotely close to "brand new, written from scratch".

A person has to expect these sorts of thing from some MOS users though. They sure do like to pat themselves on the back unnecessarily.
I'd probably use MOS more if it wasnt for portions the userbase.... theyre MOS's worst enemy a lot of the time. There's an Apple-fan like mentality to them. Which is hilarious for such a simple, obsolete system.... delusions of grandeur, but with zero reasons.

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ASiegel 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 14-Oct-2020 4:28:12
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@fishy_fis

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That's,.... err,...... let's say "creative".

I found your selective quoting to be more creative, frankly.

amigadave literally started off his post by referencing that the web browser is based on Webkit/WebCore: "Because this new browser is based on a recent 2020 version of WebCore"

What amigadave was referring to was the fact that earlier attempts to built web browsers on top of Webkit were based on other existing web browser implementations.

Sputnik was based on Nokia's "Web Browser for S60", which was the default web browser on Symbian, whereas Odyssey started off as a port of the Oryigin Web Browser that too offered many core functionalities required for building a complete web browser on top of a web browser engine. (Car engine vs. complete car, etc.)

In contrast, Wayfarer is not based on any other "web browsers" .

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It's only one developer if you disregard the hundreds of people that wrote the actual browser and %99 of the dependencies.

It's thousands of people, actually.

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A person has to expect these sorts of thing from some MOS users though. They sure do like to pat themselves on the back unnecessarily.

Some people will use anything to reenforce their own stereotypes, I guess.

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 14-Oct-2020 9:28:35
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@fishy_fis

Quote:

fishy_fis wrote:

It's only one developer if you disregard the hundreds of people that wrote the actual browser and %99 of the dependencies.

Kudos to the people that bought this code that hundreds of other people wrote to MOS, but it's not even remotely close to "brand new, written from scratch".


No-one (anywhere) has tried to hide the fact that Webkit is being used as the foundation for the Wayfarer browser. Rather the opposite actualy, it's beeing highlighted as a key feature! But Webkit is not a browser, and it certainly isn't just a matter of "compiling Webkit" to have a browser on an Amiga platform. The actual browser "Wayfarer" IS actually written from scratch!

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A person has to expect these sorts of thing from some MOS users though. They sure do like to pat themselves on the back unnecessarily.


But come on, some praise and appreciation is definitely deserved here! The effort and needed knowledge in order to pull a thing like this off is nothing short of monumental. Learning and adopting Webkit itself, developing the necessary tools in the SDK, developing and modifying core OS components, and then developing the actual browser... If this would have been an accomplishment as simple and ridiculous as you try to put it here in your belittleling wording, then we would have had hoards of modern browsers lying around everywhere for years, wouldn't we? Your entire post is just so terribly sad...

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I'd probably use MOS more if it wasnt for portions the userbase.... theyre MOS's worst enemy a lot of the time. There's an Apple-fan like mentality to them. Which is hilarious for such a simple, obsolete system.... delusions of grandeur, but with zero reasons.


Throwing stones in a glasshouse here?

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Cheese 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 18-Oct-2020 15:01:52
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Version 1.2 is now out:

*Implemented Quick Links
*Implemented favicons
*Enabled support for WebP images
*Updated libcurl
*Fixed blob: support
*Fixed file name encoding and cookie issues in downloads
*Fixed Bookmarks menus to show more depth levels
*Fixed a crash on exit caused by the password autofill manager
*Fixed a crash on exit in WebCore's fileapi
*Fixed Copy image URL context menu function

https://wayfarer.icu

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 18-Oct-2020 16:25:43
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@Cheese

Nice updates!

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 6:17:00
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Version 1.3 is out now with

*Minor perofrmance improvements, mostly on G5
*Fixed lists in settings displaying no text, sometimes crashing (read: worked around MUI issues)
*Fixed url string background offsets
*Activate an exiting tab instead of adding a new one for downloads/bookmarks/settings
*Fixed tab buttons becoming invisible or corrupt on some configs
*Fixed an issue where adding a link to quick links via menu would display them in a wrong location in the Bookmarks tab
*Fixed quicklink buttons to respect releasing mouse of of button bounds

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TRIPOS 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 6:24:41
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@Cheese

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Cheese wrote:
Version 1.3 is out now





Wow, he doesn’t rest!

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Drako 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 19:11:52
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@TRIPOS

And now 1.4 is out


* Fixed an issue where adding a link to bookmarks via menu would try to insert it to a wrong tree node in a Bookmarks tab
* Rolled back some compilation setting tweaks since they were causing issues on some G4 cpus

wayfarer

Last edited by Drako on 19-Oct-2020 at 07:12 PM.

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 19:15:51
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@Drako

Nice, port it to OS4


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K-L 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 19:18:14
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No possible. You want Wayfarer, use MorphOS.

Since optimisations tweaks cause troubles on G4, G5 users should stay with 1.3 with optimisations, shouldn't they ?

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 20:47:09
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@K-L

So let me guess this right, we have threads of adulation, pomposity and self congratulations all for a web browser that in 2020 still can't play videos....

And they wonder why user active user numbers for these niche systems are still stuck in the low hundreds...

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ASiegel 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 20:55:44
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Thankfully, MorphOS users can continue to use Odyssey v1.26 to use video platforms such as YouTube until Wayfarer supports them.

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Cheese 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 21:06:19
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@outrun1978

I was thinking of a funny meme to reply, but even I have a treshold on silly. Ehm, enjoy being you!

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Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 19-Oct-2020 22:05:02
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@Cheese

Good luck finding more subscribers to pop up the cottage industry at EUR79 a pop. From the quick look around for the first time in months it's no surprise to see so little going on around these parts, most people myself included are quite bored with the lack of actual development.

Anyone with any spare cash to spend would be better off investing in a Chromebook like the one am tapping away on, they appear to have got rather interesting since they supported things like Xbox Game Pass and sideloading Linux and Android apps. They have up to date browsers that are far more purposeful and powerful than being able to stream You Tube videos...


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BSzili 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 5:02:31
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@outrun1978

You are still salty LMAO

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bennymee 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 8:38:50
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@BSzili

Also my thoughts.
This man who brought us this browser did a really great job :) Amiga programmer of the year 2020 ?


Besides that, Chromebooks and gaming, there are far better options!

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Zylesea 
Re: MorphOS 3.14 out + new Browser Wayfarer
Posted on 27-Oct-2020 21:50:01
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Wayfarer 1.5 out now. Quite some improvements.
Nice!

https://wayfarer.icu/

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