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Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 27-Aug-2021 17:36:12
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 27-Aug-2021 19:27:22
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 27-Aug-2021 23:13:32
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725,000 views of the vid so far, plus it's spreading like a wildfire.
Author's twitter
Basically...more coming.
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 29-Aug-2021 21:36:28
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what a joke it's always been buyer beware in every single type of collecting market (hobby)! Any seller can ask any amount of money for his/her item BUT that doesn't mean they will get it..this type of stupidity has been happening on EBay for decades..."RARE, one of a kind, graded by God himself, 11/10 etc etc
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 31-Aug-2021 2:49:58
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So, you didn't watch the video or read anything about the topic at hand then? This has *nothing* to do with inflated ebay, etc prices. Its about ACTUAL fraud. Organised between a few well established entities. |
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 31-Aug-2021 2:52:51
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| I'm more curious as to why *this* particular video went viral. This has all been public knowledge for a long time. The auction house has been caught multiple times inflating prices with fake bids going back a few years. |
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 31-Aug-2021 16:07:46
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True regarding basic knowledge of this over the years. I've watched quite a few videos from people who own large collections and therefore have a vested interest. You could say they offer a different view.
However, there seem so far to be 2 specific points that have surprised even people with a vested interest in keeping prices high...
(1)The same people being involved in grading/auctioning/and as both seller and buyer.
(2)The history of the same people from the last time they were identified doing something similar and the monetary consequences to them for that actiivity.
btw-there is a flood of information on this now. this is not going away.
https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/breaking-news-national-video-game note: Update links to newer information
And hours ago another posting on the author's (Jobst) twitter from Seth: Quote:
Video Game Grading House WATA Told the New York Times That Its Employees Can't Sell WATA-Graded Games Due to Conflicts of Interest. So Why Did One of Its SEC-Listed Co-Founders Just Sell Me Three? |
the actual article about the above from just hours ago
Also mentioned is a followup video on the way from Karl. Quote:
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 31-Aug-2021 23:05:59
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Yes I did & whether a 'well known entity' or a lone idiot selling online I stand by my post above. When I know what I'm taking about on my hobbies I don't give a rats arse about anyone or company trying to tell me about what something is worth! _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE |
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 22-Apr-2022 16:04:27
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Just a few updates, since it's been so long...
the Karl Jobst update from December
and back to now:
the lawsuit
btw-the Seth Abramson mentioned is also interested in nostalgia video consoles. example He also wrote about Intellivision and their efforts to enter the console market again. He's just another with apparently no knowledge of TheA500 Mini.
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 22-Apr-2022 18:11:55
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 22-Apr-2022 23:05:13
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Re: Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Market Posted on 23-Apr-2022 12:10:55
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