Click Here
home features news forums classifieds faqs links search
6052 members 
Amiga Q&A /  Free for All /  Emulation /  Gaming / (Latest Posts)
Login

Nickname

Password

Lost Password?

Don't have an account yet?
Register now!

Support Amigaworld.net
Your support is needed and is appreciated as Amigaworld.net is primarily dependent upon the support of its users.
Donate

Menu
Main sections
Home
Features
News
Forums
Classifieds
Links
Downloads
Extras
OS4 Zone
IRC Network
AmigaWorld Radio
Newsfeed
Top Members
Amiga Dealers
Information
About Us
FAQs
Advertise
Polls
Terms of Service
Search

IRC Channel
Server: irc.amigaworld.net
Ports: 1024,5555, 6665-6669
SSL port: 6697
Channel: #Amigaworld
Channel Policy and Guidelines

Who's Online
55 crawler(s) on-line.
 34 guest(s) on-line.
 0 member(s) on-line.



You are an anonymous user.
Register Now!
 zipper:  32 mins ago
 DiscreetFX:  46 mins ago
 Kronos:  56 mins ago
 clint:  56 mins ago
 pixie:  59 mins ago
 Karlos:  1 hr 5 mins ago
 Futaura:  1 hr 36 mins ago
 ppcamiga1:  2 hrs 15 mins ago
 agami:  2 hrs 55 mins ago
 Maijestro:  2 hrs 59 mins ago

/  Forum Index
   /  Classic Amiga Software
      /  Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Register To Post

Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 )
PosterThread
fishy_fis 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 9:18:48
#21 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 29-Mar-2004
Posts: 2108
From: Australia

@Karlos

True.
At 1.3 seconds though I was assuming it was an older version that doesnt take advantage of modern hardware/software though.
For such a simple scene 1.3 seconds seems way too long.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Karlos 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 9:32:28
#22 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 24-Aug-2003
Posts: 3565
From: As-sassin-aaate! As-sassin-aaate! Ooh! We forgot the ammunition!

@fishy_fis

Ray tracing can take as long as you want, depending on the quality you want to achieve.

Rather than use lightwave, I'd consider something like Andrew Kessler's Businesses Card Raytracer. A simple, one file tracer that is easy to compile and run. It's very branchy, arithmetically dense and even had some logic operations in the path tracing (the objects are positioned in a bitmap). It's not designed for speed, it was the smallest ray tracer that could be written. There are de golfed versions available and runs as a single thread.

_________________
Doing stupid things for fun...

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
fishy_fis 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 9:48:55
#23 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 29-Mar-2004
Posts: 2108
From: Australia

@Karlos

Sure, hence the "for such a simple scene" (in Lightwave, as per the discussion).
It's not just cpu being used with modern hardware/software, it's gpu too.
Given the scene/textures/resolution/etc. it could be rendered (number pulled from a hat) hundreds of times a second in a modern version of Lightwave with modern hardware.

Having said that, Id hazard a guess the vast majority of the time @1.3 seconds is the initialization, not the rendering, so perhaps the single frame of the render was 1.3s on modern hardware/version of LW.

Last edited by fishy_fis on 30-Jan-2023 at 09:49 AM.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Karlos 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 10:58:08
#24 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 24-Aug-2003
Posts: 3565
From: As-sassin-aaate! As-sassin-aaate! Ooh! We forgot the ammunition!

@fishy_fis

This is why AEK would make a good test. I had my own de-golfed version that could be used, maybe with a higher resolution and ray per pixel count.

_________________
Doing stupid things for fun...

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
pixie 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 11:38:32
#25 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 10-Mar-2003
Posts: 2845
From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@bennymee

Quote:
1.3 sec on native Lightwave if I am correct.
No comparison.

Why?

Quote:
The 21 sec results in this topic for the 13900K are more usefull, comparing them with 68K emulation on Amiga platforms like Petunia, Trance and Emu64.

Well, I have given you mine 54s for 5800x, there's that

_________________
Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home.
The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
klx300r 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 20:40:27
#26 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Mar-2008
Posts: 3804
From: Toronto, Canada

I can't get the render screen to play nice to render the scene via LW but using Shell via ScreamerNet to render as per walkero over at amigans instructions:

AmigaONE X1000, PPC, OS4.1FE- 17m10s

BUT this is not comparing apple to apples though as per the steps from post 1but still cool to try.

T do so make sure your using v5, open Shell and type:

xx:xx/Lwsn.fp -3 scenes/benchmark/Raytrace.lws 0 0 (x is location of your Lightwave folder)

Last edited by klx300r on 31-Jan-2023 at 02:49 AM.
Last edited by klx300r on 31-Jan-2023 at 02:44 AM.

_________________
____________________________
c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII
! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 !
mancave-ramblings
X1000 I BELIEVE

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
bennymee 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 30-Jan-2023 21:44:43
#27 ]
Cult Member
Joined: 19-Aug-2003
Posts: 691
From: Netherlands

@pixie

( Emulation of ) Lightwave on Amiga vs native Lightwave on a Windows machine which can support every core, hardware support on the gfx chip.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
pixie 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 10:49:10
#28 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 10-Mar-2003
Posts: 2845
From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@bennymee

That's how you get the ratio between emulation and native, ain't it not?

_________________
Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home.
The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
pixie 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 11:42:15
#29 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 10-Mar-2003
Posts: 2845
From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@fishy_fis

Quote:
21 seconds on my i9-13900k

Which scene?

_________________
Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home.
The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
fishy_fis 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 13:25:22
#30 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 29-Mar-2004
Posts: 2108
From: Australia

@pixie

The one called "raytrace.LWS".
I watched Youtube video at the start of this thread, downloaded the files and followed it to a tea.

I must admit Im surprised by how much faster this machine is than my old Ryzen 9 5900x with WinUAE cpu emulation. It's often ~2x faster, sometimes less, sometimes more.

Last edited by fishy_fis on 31-Jan-2023 at 01:26 PM.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
pixie 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 14:02:01
#31 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 10-Mar-2003
Posts: 2845
From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@fishy_fis

:O It takes about 10x as much on my 5800x...

_________________
Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home.
The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
klx300r 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 8-Apr-2023 2:49:01
#32 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Mar-2008
Posts: 3804
From: Toronto, Canada

Amiga 1200, PiStorm32 with Raspberry Pi3a+ (March 10/23 firmware), Amiga OS3.2.2

5m59sec

_________________
____________________________
c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII
! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 !
mancave-ramblings
X1000 I BELIEVE

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Hammer 
Re: Lightwave benchmark for users with PPC, 060, PiStorm, Vampire accelerators
Posted on 19-Apr-2023 3:54:26
#33 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 9-Mar-2003
Posts: 4656
From: Australia

@bennymee

Quote:

bennymee wrote:
@Karlos

On Amigans, there is an X5000 doing 3m 27sec.
Interesting point is that the Morphos Trance 68K emulator is so much slower. Factor 3.

Well, AmigaOS 4.1 FE doesn't work on Power 9 + Supermicro P9DSU-C.

Power 9 has arrived on the mainstream PC server motherboard manufacturer's list i.e. Supermicro.

_________________
Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 32 GB RAM, GeForce RTX 4080
Amiga 1200 (rev 1D1, KS 3.2, TF1260, 68060 @ 63 Mhz, 128 MB)
Amiga 500 (rev 6A, KS 3.2, PiStorm/RPi3a/Emu68)

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 )

[ home ][ about us ][ privacy ] [ forums ][ classifieds ] [ links ][ news archive ] [ link to us ][ user account ]
Copyright (C) 2000 - 2019 Amigaworld.net.
Amigaworld.net was originally founded by David Doyle