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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 10:35:05
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 10:37:22
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 11:21:41
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If MUI is so important for you, shouldn’t you have moved to MorphOS? |
That's what I was thinking. MUI is the defacto UI toolkit there and, you know, it's PPC.
MUI is not an integral part of AmigaOS. It is an integral part of MorphOS.Last edited by Karlos on 10-Mar-2024 at 11:22 AM.
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 11:31:45
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 15:16:30
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mui is gui standard on amiga. want people to switch to x86/arm provide os as good as window/android with compatible mui clone
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 17:26:31
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mui is gui standard on amiga |
Wrong. I have the installation media for every version of AmigaOS since 2.04 through 4.1 and MUI was not a standard component of any of them. Unfortunately my cluebat is in storage.
MUI is the standard on MorphOS. You should use that.Last edited by Karlos on 10-Mar-2024 at 05:30 PM.
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 17:48:38
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Karlos wrote: MorphOS. You should use that. |
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 18:06:57
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stop that bs now. mui is standard gui on amiga accept that. want people to use amiga os like solutions on x86/arm stop trolling start working on mui clone
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 18:38:31
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 18:46:24
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it has original mui
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 19:07:03
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I still don't understand to this day why Reaction wasn't axed along time ago, and Mui embraced as the defacto standard. |
Because MUI was evil, it was made by people from the 'Blue Camp' and it is even embedded in CGX5 that is only available for MorphOS.
Hyperion could get access to Reaction at least, if not they would have to build something new. |
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 19:26:46
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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Karlos
stop that bs now. mui is standard gui on amiga accept that.
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Absolutely not. Every time you claim MUI is from AmigaOS, I will correct you. You can count on it.
MUI was and is great UI toolkit and I have many applications that use it. But it has never been part of AmigaOS. Ever._________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 19:51:55
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you are wrong mui is standard gui on amiga accept that stop trolling start working on mui clone
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 21:05:00
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No, it isn't. It's the standard for MorphOS. The standards for AmigaOS are gadtools and later reaction.
Show me a single OS component in AmigaOS, any version whatsoever, that uses MUI. You can't, because there aren't any, and there have never, ever been any.
MUI, nice as it is, is a third party system on AmigaOS.
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 10-Mar-2024 22:13:24
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Kronos wrote: @Karlos Please don't...... |
Think of it as care in the community. He apparently loves NG, PPC and MUI. MorphOS could be the zenith of happinesses for the guy. He might even become less maladjusted._________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 11-Mar-2024 6:50:27
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you are wrong mui is standard gui on amiga accept that stop trolling start working on mui clone |
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 11-Mar-2024 7:45:12
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 11-Mar-2024 10:47:27
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Karlos wrote: @ppcamiga1
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mui is gui standard on amiga |
Wrong. I have the installation media for every version of AmigaOS since 2.04 through 4.1 and MUI was not a standard component of any of them. Unfortunately my cluebat is in storage. |
Actually, OS4 comes with MUI in its base installation, and several programs included in the Extras directory in the OS installation media do require MUI. I'm not sure if any actual system component requires it, but in any case it is there ready to be used with the "extra" programs or other 3rd party programs user might install.
The default MUI preset on OS4 looks similar to Reaction config, so users may not even notice which GUI toolkit they're using if they don't pay attention to it.
OS4.0 came with a MUI 3.9 port by Jens Langner and Stefan Burström, and OS4.1 has a later MUI version by Thore Boeckelmann and Jens Maus.
AFAIK the only "issue" with the MUI ports on OS4 distributions is that they aren't registered and users should install their MUI keyfile to get full configuration options, but that isn't required either and an unregistered version works just fine in practise.
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 11-Mar-2024 12:03:17
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I didn't say it wasn't a contribution in the distribution. I said it wasn't a component part of the OS. No operating system component uses it, only other third party contributions.
Since OS4 comes on CD, like 3.5 and 3.9 it includes a lot of additional contributions.
The problem ppcamiga1 has is that he's so unfamiliar with what is AmigaOS and what is not that he constantly conflates the two. For anyone with even the tiniest glimmer of a clue, it's obvious.
MUI is *not* part of Amiga OS. It's third party.
Reaction is the standard GUI toolkit for OS4.
If he wants MUI to be the default, he needs to switch over to MorphOS.
He'll be claiming that UAE is a standard part of AmigaOS next. Last edited by Karlos on 11-Mar-2024 at 12:04 PM.
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Re: For @ppcamiga1: Why MUI? Posted on 12-Mar-2024 5:58:21
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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Karlos
mui is gui standard on amiga it was before commodore and is still good enough want people to use x86/arm solutions start working on mui clone
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ppcamiga1 wrote: @cdimauro
stop trolling start working on mui clone
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