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FuZion 
I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 20:45:42
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Wires... Don't you just hate em?!

I've been looking forward to a cable less computing environment since I first heard about the technology. I have plans for my A1.

1) Cordless keyboard & mouse: This is easy enough. PS2 compatable ones everywhere.

2) Cordless printer: I've seen a bluetooth USB thing for printers. As long as there's a driver, the printer doesn't need to be anything special, just a USB printer.

3) This is one that I have not seen a solution for as yet. A cordless connection to my monitor. Has anyone seen ANY sort of cable free monitor type solution, if so, where can I get one?

4) Also one I haven't seen. A cordless connection for the speakers. Soundcard, generic hi-fi equiptment? Solutions for this could come from different sources.


That should do for now. My main thought behind this is to drag my cordless mouse (Trackball would be better actually), keyboard & monitor to the next room, plug the monitor into the mains & use it somewhere else. Kool eh! Lets hope.

My next plan is to have a cordless mains supply

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 21:35:47
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@FuZion

If you don't want to plug it into the wall all the time, a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) would work. Depending on how big of a UPS you get and the drain from your computer (MicroA1 would be good at running off've one) they last differing amount of times. Mind you they cost a bit, and weigh a TON, and they'd still be a seperately wired component, although you might be able to case mod one with a PC...

I'll wait until I don't have to use IDE cables either ;).

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BrianK 
Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 21:53:29
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@FuZion

2) Cordless printer --- Wireless print servers exist. It'd be nice to see the AmigaOne take advantage of those. Apple's Airport Express might be an option.

3) I've not seen a cordless connection to the monitor. However, something for the Amiga like http://www.maxivista.com/ would be nice.

4) Cordless connection to speakers/stereo Airpoft Express might be a good suggestion again...http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/

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My next plan is to have a cordless mains supply

One of the problems with everything cordless is you still need power. Typically this comes from batteries, rechargeables are suggested.

Don't forget 5) Wireless networking...



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I'll wait until I don't have to use IDE cables either

Sun Microsystems will do you one better...http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-5291289.html is a project they've named 'proximity communications' aims to let one chip transmit signals directly to another next to it, instead of through the tangle of pins, wires and circuit boards -- wouldn't that be cool ?!

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 22:27:18
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@FuZion

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I'd like a cable less computing environment please


Would that be "one" cable less or a totally wireless solution you seek?

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
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@Steff

Oh yes, entirely cable less if I can.


@JeffMix

5) Yes, wireless networking too. I almost forgot that. Can I do it with the A1?

6) Upto 4 wireless joypads too.

7) Slightly OT: A wireless network to my PS2 to I can beat the world at Burnout 3. Does anyone know how I can network both my A1 & PS2 at the same time? With wires will be fine for now.

FuZion.

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 6:40:08
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@FuZion

Wireless speaker systems already exist and is more a hardware solution so wouldn't require any specific drivers on the Amiga end to run.

Wireless monitors aren't around basically because the transmission environment would be way too noisy. You'd be talking about modulating the video information, transmitting it and then demodulating again at the other end - that makes for picture reproduction which isn't monitor standard. You're at a loss on that one I'm afraid.

As for wireless power, I suppose you could always build a mini generator and connect it to the rear end of each of your computer peripherals. You then link that to a pedal system on your computer chair and you sit there pedalling like a lunatic as you're using the computer. Voila, wireless power for your machines!

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MikeB 
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@FuZion

Actually wireless monitors already exist. However IMO for most people a completely wireless desktop system wouldn't add too much value.

However I do think system manufacturers should have done more to minimize the required wires, like for instance having one cable from your monitor to your PC should IMO be enough, not having one completely seperate cable for display signals, one for power supply and maybe even some more for internal speakers.

If you really want to use your computer furhter away from your main desktop, IMO laptop computers, PDAs, smartphones or webtablets communicating through wireless networks with your main system (for file sharing, internet access, peripheral sharing, etc) would make more sense.

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Mark 
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Posted on 20-Aug-2004 8:25:00
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@MikeB

The problem with having power and data so close (that it is in one cable) is that you tend to get interferance from the power cables.

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
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@Mark

Good isolation is important, but I already have these wires running along eachother without problems with my current system. Most people I know don't actually take notice of the distance between wires and most of the time it's just one complete mess of knotted computer wires hidden behind/under the desk.

BTW I meant one cable with multiple cable ends.

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@FuZion

I haven't heard of a wireless monitor but if you are happy with a TV signal from your video card, a wireless TV sender would work! The ones I have seen use the 1.4GHz frequency and can be bought these days for about £50

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 10:05:24
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@ihatewestlife2002
Isn´t that 2,4GHz?
That is gonna be a problem in the future, everybody having 2,4Ghz wireless.
Dect-phones, network(ethernet), bluetooth, audio-video transmitters...............

Also you could just cheat and but RF-output into an antenna, but that is illegal and would probably annoy the neighbours.

I did tested it once with an A1200 connected to a video and then coonected the rf-out from the video to the antenna. Then I watched the picture on a little handheld Casio-tv, it was very clear.
But I wouldn´t use it anywhere else than in the countryside and it´s illegal but so is FM-radio transmitters for mp3 to carstereos

What about microsofts "mira"-tablets aren´t they too be discontinued so the would be on sale?
The bad thing is that they are windows only and I think they couldn´t do full framerate video.

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Posted on 20-Aug-2004 10:20:40
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@FuZion

3:
Virtually impossible. We're talking at least 1Gbps per second per color (3 colours). So you're gonna need a 10+ GHz carrier at the very least. Then we're talking short distance point-to-point at horrible prices. Unless you're operating with tiny screens and crappy resolutions

4:
This is quite common equipment in the hifi world.

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1024 x 768 @ 30Hz?

I don't frigging think so

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@MikeB

Apple have already tried this with thier ADC connector. Video, power and (IIRC) USB all in one cable with one connection. It was used on powermacs/powerbooks for a while. It's just recently been scrapped when the new Cinema Displays came out, they now use DVI connections for video.

Some display manufacturers like Formac make bundled cables (DVI, power, etc. all bundled in a single cover for maximum neatness).

If you are looking to limit/neaten cabling, Apple are the comapny to look to. The eMacs and iMacs are fantastically neat cable wise.

 
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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 11:17:13
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@FuZion

3)
a) Build the computer inside a monitor.
b) wait for Amiga that is integrated into a monitor (tablet PC)


All in one solution: Embed all cables into the table.

(Dremel multitool and top miller is "almost" all you need)

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@FuZion

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FuZion wrote:
Wires... Don't you just hate em?!

3) This is one that I have not seen a solution for as yet. A cordless connection to my monitor. Has anyone seen ANY sort of cable free monitor type solution, if so, where can I get one?

We have an eMac in this room.

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4) Also one I haven't seen. A cordless connection for the speakers. Soundcard, generic hi-fi equiptment? Solutions for this could come from different sources.

I use a wireless sound reproduction system from my CD32 which fills in playing Audio CDs. A FM Transmitter is attached to the RCA sockets, and that audio can be received on FM Headphones or on a FM Stereo Wireless.

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My next plan is to have a cordless mains supply

Have a read-up on Nikola Tesla and his Radiant Energy Patents.

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 14:57:07
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@FuZion

Don't forget to get Satellite for your TV reception and DSL for your internet so you can be cable-less...

Okay bad but gets a nonetheless

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@FuZion

4.> Cordless Speakers:
Have a look There or There.

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Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 16:25:42
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@FuZion

Buy a laptop.....

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FuZion 
Re: I'd like a cable less computing environment please
Posted on 20-Aug-2004 18:25:13
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There's some nice suggestions here.

I'll have to say, a SOON as there's an Amiga Laptop, I'l be there. That cordless monitor seems quite nice but I guess I'll have to wait a while for higher resolutions & frequencies. I think I'll put up with THAT wire for the moment.

Does anyone have any wireless network suggestions? Including getting my PS2 rigged up too?

FuZion.

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