I know that AEROS and AROS still is a WIP and needs many things still to be worked on, but it is looking very good now and I don't understand why people would still want OS4.x and/or MorphOS3.x to be ported to x86, when they should just make the switch to AROS, or AEROS and support the work that is going on there instead.

The amount of work and time it will take to completely port OS4.x, and/or MorphOS3.x to x86 or ARM would be a waste of time and effort IMHO, when that time and effort could be better spent by just supporting what already exists in AROS & AEROS.

This is also a way to (mostly) painlessly reunite the Next Generation Amiga community and give the Classic Amiga community a cheap and easy way to move to new hardware, if/when their old original Amiga hardware finally dies and they no longer want to pay the high prices of buying more very old original hardware to replace what they have lost.

It just makes sense to me that AROS & AEROS and the world of Open Source is the way to the future eventually (be that now, or for some people, 5 years from now).

It sure would be nice to have all of the Amiga community back together and working together to keep the Amiga alive, in spirit at least, if not in original 68k hardware with custom chips and OCS/ECS/AGA.

That is my dream for our long range future anyway, even though I am an avid supporter of OS4.x, MorphOS3.x and all of the FPGA Amiga hardware, plus my large collection of original Commodore Amiga computers.

If you do not agree with this vision of the future for the Amiga, please just keep an open mind and do not keep bashing one flavor or another of the Amiga experience, as that just hurts all of us and drives some people away from all forms of the remaining Amiga community.

Congratulations to all of the hard working AROS & AEROS developers who do their work for free (for the most part). What you have accomplished over the years is finally paying off with a very nice product.

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Thanks.

Regarding MOS and AmigaOS4 i think that both OS have their personal spirit.
AROS can also do a good job just as "AROS" without Amiga background.

"IF" I would be part of Hyperion, I would make an PPC hosted version of AmigaOS.
This way they can loose a much trouble regarding driver creation.

Than I would look how I can use AROS for my needs.. See at BSD / OSX.

In any case.. AROS can be taken by everyone to build upon it.

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Edited and moved news item to "Aros Hardware".

(No pictures from outside servers that can affect the frontpage, simply for layout redundancy reasons ;- ) )

Regarding the news item itself, machine looks nice and nice to be able to buy an all inclusive machine for AROS

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@amigadave

+1 to every word you just said.

Interesting thoughts. Perhaps there should be a look towards a new specification if the PowerPC platform is unlikely to meet future requirements.

Could I buy one of the x1000 cases for something like this or is that sacrilege?

I keep looking at it thinking $380 USD for this... compare that to CUSA's x86 product and I just don't understand how CUSA can even exist.

@tommywright

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I keep looking at it thinking $380 USD for this... compare that to CUSA's x86 product and I just don't understand how CUSA can even exist.

We are kindred spirits!

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

@tommywright

here in Norway you can buy this cheap

about 122 $

Komplett

without psu

Last edited by noXLar on 22-Jul-2012 at 05:22 AM.

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Agreed !!

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@amigadave:

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It just makes sense to me that AROS & AEROS and the world of Open Source is the way to the future eventually

I hate to be the spoilsport again, but all of phoenixkonsole's additions to AROS are closed source, because he doesn't want other people to distribute them with their commercial products. It's only politically correct if he does it, apparently

Without AROS I would be worried about Amiga's future.
Now, if all others fail due miss management, there is AROS.

AROS is my plan C.

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AmigaOS is plan A I guess. And what is plan B?

@cgutjahr

What "additions" do you speak of? There's nothing here not available in open source form apart from a few bits of software. Things like this are just for people who lack the motivation or knowledge to put things together themselves.

Not a criticism, Im just wondering what it is youre talking about.

Last edited by fishy_fis on 23-Jul-2012 at 10:09 AM.

@Fishy
You are right about that everyone else could put it together.
Everyone is free to do.
But there is enough inside the iso which allows to keep "it", the ISO, unused by others.
That is what cgutjahr is talking about.

Redo = yes, take = no without an ok

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As nice as this might be, I think relying on Linux is bad in the long run for the true enthusiast. This means driver development can stop. Instead what needs to happen is some funding from this needs to be re-invested in driver development so that you can eventually be 100% native again.

This is the problem with the Linux games market, why cater to them when they can boot into Windows to play games since no real standard exists for a Linux gpu api.

I think what is needed is an AROS constortium where when someone donates to a bounty, 90% goes to the actual bounty in question and 10% is funded into a general bounty for doing the work that really needs to get done for the purposes of long term goals like driver development to run on the most hardware available natively.

IMHO

Hi Lou,
don't worry.. everything goes into native development.
Hosted is just a bonbon.
With Wine you don't need to do native Ports. In many cases Windows games have better performance when used in Wine. That is the reason.

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Verry nice and interesting development!
Supported as AntiCUSA news
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/same-chaper-innovative-by-community-aresone/

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