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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 7:06:47
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| Amigakit: great, thank you for providing a full solution , i will go for that as im tired of looking in shops at numbers which aint there. _________________ See my blog and collection website! . https://www.blog.amigaguru.com
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 7:51:40
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| @Samwel:
OS4 "does it" by naming each driver after the chipset that it supports, and putting them all in SYS:Kickstart/, where they are loaded by the "Kicklayout" script at boot time. So currently there is a "sii0680ide.device" for SII parallel IDE cards, a "sii3112ide.device" for SII serial ATA cards, a "eth3com.device" for the on-board 3Com Ethernet chipset, etc.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 8:05:22
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| It is not realistic to expect an all-encompassing "network.device" or "wirelessnetwork.device" which covers all the hardware in existence.
AmigaOS has never been like this, and no other OS is like this of course either.
When you have a certain piece of hardware, you need at least a certain partial or full driver to go with it. Sometimes a driver can support a few brands or a few very similar pieces of hardware (same or related chipset), but not everything.
Devs doesn't get cluttered because you only install the file that you need for your hardware .
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 15:35:03
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Will the driver work with MOS/pegasos?
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Not yet, but I should be getting a Pegasos soon. If and when I do, MOS will be supported.
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Additionally, are sources available?
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 15:44:24
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...shame it's not uA1 compatible though
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Anybody know the full story on this?
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I've seen threads that have suggested that the interrupt line might not work in the uA1's PCI slot. Has anyone actually used a card that needs interrupts in this slot? |
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 16:49:14
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| @Toaks
Thats the intention; to make a solution that is compatible, tested on the Amiga, with Amiga technical support and help for you of course is warranted by us for 12 months. Last edited by amigakit on 18-Jan-2005 at 04:51 PM.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 16:52:31
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Are these cards compatible with the A1-SE? _________________ Who do you serve, and who do you trust? - Galen
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 17:24:48
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 18-Jan-2005 23:44:49
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| @wegster: Quote:
Most wireless routers in the past 2 or so years are dual channel simulataneously, meaning you won't have any slowdown on the rest of your wireless network.
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Ah, okay. Looks like I'm in the clear on that one, then. Mine's all new
I'll have a look at the specs one of these days to make sure.
@all/amigakit: And as for encryption, I found the page for the PCMCIA solution which did say something about 128 bit encryption. I'm assuming this means WEP. So that's cool too, I guess. We do use WPA right now with my wife's two PCs, but I think that's a Windoze speciality? So 128 bit WEP would be the best we could do anyway with Amigas in there as well.
This is beginning to look interestinglier and interestinglier ...
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 19-Jan-2005 4:11:53
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I've seen threads that have suggested that the interrupt line might not work in the uA1's PCI slot. Has anyone actually used a card that needs interrupts in this slot? |
The original uA1 mk2 has a small fixable flaw that makes the PCI slot unusable, but this is of course fixed in the uA1-C.
Is AmigaKit certain they are not using an old mk2 uA1?
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 19-Jan-2005 7:36:01
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Of course not one network.device for all chips. This file would become HUGE in time.
I thought more of a plugin system with all different chips as plugins for the general network.device. This wouldn't be impossible wouldn't it? This way only the difference and specifics of each chip would be in the plugin and all the OS/network handling code in the actual device file.
Is this not how MiamiDx deals with network cards? Is this impossible with current OS4 API?
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 19-Jan-2005 13:03:48
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 19-Jan-2005 19:59:39
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| I have been testing this card on my A1 XE for a while now and it works just fine, if AmigaKit let me hang on to it for a little while there will no doubt be a review in issue 20 of Total Amiga magazine _________________ SAM 460 with 2GB or RAM, 1000GB HD, 4 port SATA, DVDRW drive and Radeon HD 4650 GFX card.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 19-Jan-2005 22:55:15
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The card is yours for keeps - least we could do for the testing you've done.
BTW: We'll send you the new docs and driver CD for the full review. Last edited by amigakit on 19-Jan-2005 at 10:56 PM.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 20-Jan-2005 6:02:28
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On top the Parallel port, is marked "Eyetech µ-A1 Pre-production v2 50Fx@800Mhz:256M
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LOL, talk about a mess up (by your dealer).
Regards.Last edited by rossv on 20-Jan-2005 at 12:35 PM.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 20-Jan-2005 6:04:05
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Is this not how MiamiDx deals with network cards? |
No. It uses either SANA II drivers in the usual place, or it's own MNI drivers in some other place.
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But then you end up with a folder full of plugins instead. Whats the difference?
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 20-Jan-2005 11:28:30
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| Now we require a µA1 owner with a version 3 motherboard to verify that the card works- any one out there wants to help out?
Once compatibility has been checked with the µA1 v3+ we will update the website. _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 20-Jan-2005 12:29:22
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I hope you get a real uA1-C to replace your uA1, because the old uA1 you have, does not even have the DMA Fix IIRC.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 21-Jan-2005 1:18:12
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No. It uses either SANA II drivers in the usual place, or it's own MNI drivers in some other place. |
Well, aren't the MNI drivers what I was talking about? They aren't full device drivers ala "a13com.device" (hope I got the name right)? The network hadling is done inside MiamiDx and the MNI drivers are merely "plugins" of sort telling Miami the characteristics of each card. Saving space and memory. Or am I totally way out there???
The difference would be that they would ALL be network plugins. Not a whole bunch of different device files doing millions of different things. My OS3.5 DEVS: got very cluttered in the end, nearly half of the devices I wasn't really clear on what they did. Same goes for L: with all the filesystems and handlers. Why are filesystems and handlers in the same place?
What is the exact defination of a device, handler and a library? Sometimes you can see libraries that very well could have been devices or handlers and the other way around.
My understanding is that a device is code for "speaking" with an external "gadget" connected to one of the ports of the used hardware.
A library is specialized code used repeated times in one or several programs.
But a handler I have never understood what those do. I have seen them connected to filesystems when running mounting scripts though.Last edited by Samwel on 21-Jan-2005 at 01:24 AM.
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Re: Wireless Cards for the AmigaOne Posted on 21-Jan-2005 9:51:50
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