@MikeB
I don't think you could say that because I have doubt that the votes can be taken as a representative of the 'Amiga Online community'. In fact this poll was titled 'A1 survey' so we can imagine that most of the Pegasos enthousiasts don't even bother to look at it as it does not concern them at first glance, it's the same with Classic's community.
In fact, IMHO, the votes can only be taken as representative of the 'Amiga Online Community of A1/OS4 interested' i.e. those who keep themselves informed of the progress of A1/OS4 just in case or just for knowledge.

@Samwel
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Only a total of 263 Pegasos users?!? They must be really inactive on the net.

Better think they don't even bother with a 'A1 survey' as this title seems to only be for A1 interested people isn't it ?

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@ abalaban

Like I said I view this survey merely as a *hint*. There are many different factors to take into consideration and your points are valid as well. For instance I believe the survey should also have been a news item here at AmigaWorld when it was originally announced (AW seems to have been down at the time..), this to ensure a maximum of A1 voters, but this only happened when the survey was nearly coming to an end.

But in my experience the remaining online Amiga users are generally happy to take part in just about any kind of survey and certainly some vocal Pegasos users take a lot of interest into anything AmigaOne/AmigaOS4 related, despite the fact that quite a few of them state that they don't have any interest in these projects.

But anyway the survey was covered here at AmigaWorld.net, which is the most active English languaged Amiga community portal and also at amiga-news.de (the most important German languaged mixed Amiga community portal) and several other mixed portals. These all seem to receive more activity than the major MorphOS/Pegasos (or AROS) specific portals each.

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@ abalaban

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In fact this poll was titled 'A1 survey'

I just noticed that the relating news item at AO and ANN stated: "Only 4 days left for the Amiga Survey!" and did not actually indicate being A1 specific.

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Only 4 days left for the Amiga Survey! There is only 4 days left for the Amiga Survey! Over 1550 people have filled out this very quick survey. So stand up and be counted! Let your presence be known. I know there are more of you out there!

I guess most online MorphOS users still visit these mixed portals. It seems that at least 263 Pegasos (40 also owning an AmigaOne) owners participated in this survey. IMO that's quite a large figure considering the amount of poll particpants at the major Pegasos/MorphOS dedicated websites. (polls at Pegasos.org received votes ranging from 18 up to 143 votes (one vote a day allowed) max in 2005 and a February '05 poll at MorphZone asked "What G4 upgrade would you buy for your Pegasos II?" and this poll received 49 votes in total.

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@Firbodi

Dirk-K said
DK>> ...well if every OS4 user convince 1 user a year to use OS4...

F> That'd be really hard to do. Do you know why? The reason we're all comfortable
F> with AmigaOS and think that it's user-friendly is that we've been using it for
F> about 10 years.

Well, it actually IS more user-friendly than some OSes.

F> For a brand new user, the terminology is unknow, let alone using the OS.
F> Books, manuals and toturials not being available don't help people, either
F> users or coders.

Tutorials ARE popping up (UtilityBase, etc.) as well as essays on putting
machines together and reviews, but we could use more.

F> Maybe I should start writing manuals instead of complaining

Well, much as I like complaining (and a well-placed complaint can be helpful
at times), I have to say that a really good system (HW) setup manual or "First
Steps in Amiga OS4" would be worth way more than five brand new killer games
and more than most developer utilities. A printed (is that called a book?
pamphlet would be enough, probably) or printable document, especially on the
HW side, would be even better. Anything you get done in that regard will
earn my applause.

Hmmm, I would have thought more Pegasos users would have taken a part in this. I guess most of them dont care? You laso have to figure in all the linux only Pegasos users now. Lots of them dont read any of the Amiga type sites, they have no care at all about the AOS/MOS world. Talking to a few people in the #gentoppc room of freenode.net they say close to 300 systems have been sold on the Gentoo store site alone.

It was really nice to see so many planning to get their A1 soon. Maybe I should
place my order now before OS4-final is out or I'll end up waiting.

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I'd like to see another question - "If you had the choice between the µA1-C and µA1-I, which would you choose?"

But that isn't a valid question.

Who's to say that the 'I' version will be sold to the general public, or that it will ever make it onto the market. It may only be offered to certain customers, with a minimum quantity order.

Best off asking questions related to what is available right now.

@Acill:

I think that someone who bought a Pegasos but has only ever run Linux on is can't really be called 'an amiga user'. PPC Linux user, yes. Pegasos user, certainly. Amiga user?

(note: this doesn't include dual-booters; I'm referring to people who only ever run Linux)

At first I wasn't going to vote, because polls usually don't interest me (unless there's a comedic answer!) and I'm not an A1 owner so it doesn't really apply to me... but then I got curious about what the results would be and decided at the last minute to vote, so I checked in an an answer and there ya go!

By the way, I did not choose "No, I own a Pegasos and don't plan to buy an AmigaOne" because to me it sounded a bit negative. I do happen to own a pegasos1, but I do not want to imply that my owning a pegasos first would influence my decision or interest in buying an A1.

There are other factors that would decide whether I would be an OS4 user or not.

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Talking to a few people in the #gentoppc room of freenode.net they say close to 300 systems have been sold on the Gentoo store site alone.

in only a couple of months? Do you believe that?

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Good news is that 732 plan to buy AmigaOne,

that is not bad considering no advertising.

Wish we would have had a country breakdown.

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ikir

Hey Everyone!

I own three different AmigaOnes. I was wondering if I got counted for the two Micro A1s I have an the A1-XE I have as well. I posted in the comments that I had three machines.

Anyways, this seems about right, since Eyetech puts out the A1s at about a trickle rate. I know of some users here in the states that are on the waiting list to get a micro. Also, I run a bbs and I am part of the port zero bbs network and 3/5 of us are running our bbses on A1.

Personally, I am not worried about the software side of OS 4.0. There are alot of cool things being worked on and I know what we will have more modern software in the future. I think our main obstacle is price on the A1 boards. It is imperative that Eyetech get that price down when OS 4.0 is officially released. If they get the price down and make the boards available, a whole lot of other people would be willing to give it a try!

Yogi

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@MikeB
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Pegasos (40 also owning an AmigaOne) owners

That figure looks suspiciously low to me. There's a lot of people out there who own, or would like to own if finances permitted, both systems.

@ anarchic_teapot

I am sure that the absolute figures of the people who own both platforms are significantly higher, but with regard to representative percentages, 15% of the Pegasos owners seems quite a high figure to me.

For instance if the results would be representative compared to reality, this would indicate that 6% of AmigaOne owners would also own a Pegasos.

So these results seems to indicate that a Pegasos user is more than 2 times as likely to own both platform simultaneously than an AmigaOne owner would be. And if what you state is correct, this figure would be even higher. This seems a little strange to me when comparing the generally receptive and kind attitude towards Pegasos hardware/users at dedicated or mixed Amiga community forums and the generally vocal disapproval of the A1 project at more Peg/MOS centralized forums. It could be that a few vocals have been able to completely distort the general impression/perception when compared to reality. (IMO this would make sense considering the similarities of both platforms. IMO they are so alike with regard to actual usage that to me it seems nearly impossible to claim the rival platform to be utter "crap" and meanwhile also claim the preferred platform to be absolutely magnificent)

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