"@opi
Why attack one of the few company who supports amiga?"

Opi - eFUNZINe from Poland (Pegasos dealer!)

Elbox from...? Poland! :)

eFUNZINe and Elbox - Pegasos vs Amiga war in Poland, and now... world war,
amigaworld.net war! :)

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Opi is not against Elbox because of any stupid Pegasos vs Amiga war... Opi is against the fact that they are dishonest. And do not dare tell me they are not. They also have their legion of trolls that runs around spreading lies against anyone that says anything against them, including Hyperion.

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Opi is not against Elbox because of any stupid Pegasos vs Amiga war... Opi is against the fact that they are dishonest. And do not dare tell me they are not. They also have their legion of trolls that runs around spreading lies against anyone that says anything against them, including Hyperion.

There was the one issue of Elbox not paying for P96, this is why Hyperion set up a licencing system for Warp3D. Although nothing has ever been said I expect some of Elbox's money has found it's way to the P96 team because of this.

I haven't seen an army of trolls spreading lies on behalf of Elbox, just independant people like myself trying to point out what good they've done for the Amiga market and dispel the prejudice against them.

Last edited by Mikey_C on 19-May-2005 at 09:40 PM.

Right. You missed the threads with two individual Polish Amiga users in this very site then. Tjaoz was the one of course, I can't remember the other one. Tjaoz started argueing with Rogue himself. Oh, and again, Elbox raised hell about the W3D licencing, do not forget that.

Edit: typo.

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Opi - eFUNZINe from Poland (Pegasos dealer!)

Yup, I've worked at eFUNZINe for few years. We're a bunch of friends who wanted to do something fun and Amiga related. I can say we did (I did, they are doing it still) a good job.
About being a Pegasos dealer, we're also selling A1. But since I co-work with Genesi on not-amiga-related-stuff you can say I'm biased. And that's why I have ,,Blue Troll'' in my signature. )

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eFUNZINe and Elbox - Pegasos vs Amiga war in Poland, and now...

There's no war. Maybe I should include a ,,my opinions are not the opinions of eFUNZINe, Genesi and/or TPnets'' in my signature, too. I just think some people are jumping out of joy because of everything. Amiga Online Casino Aka Amiga INC. Superb! Some portable games not even related to AmigaOS. Superb!

When someone disagree with you, it dosen't mean that he's trolling. For example: I like what Hyperion did with OS3.1. So, now I'm in your camp. I don't like rebranded towers from a PC market with a price tag of a whole computer. Now I'm outside. Trolling.

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Ok, before anyone points at Hyperion again: This is MY opinon. Not Hypeiron. Ok ?

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There was the one issue of Elbox not paying for P96, this is why Hyperion set up a licencing system for Warp3D.

Ahem, no.

The license system was set up because we couldn't afford to invest too much time in Warp3D anymore, unless it was paid.

That doesn't mean I endorse Elbox' stance on the P96 issue. In fact, I found the whole affair quite disgusting.

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Although nothing has ever been said I expect some of Elbox's money has found it's way to the P96 team because of this.

Like I said, the Warp3D licensing didn't have anything to do with P96. Even though some "insiders" will probably tell you that Elbox had different conditions (i.e. was paying more than the others), this is complete nonsense. In fact, nobody of the involved parties did raise any fuss about this except for Elbox. In the end, we came to an agreement. End of story.

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Nice case i just wish that it had a window in it as ive always wanetd one rather than a dull looking case such as my current power tower...

I guess it's becoming the Amiga way -- anytime something positive is announced, bitching and complaining is all that results. I'm surprised people are still working on stuff for the amiga with so many assholes around.

I wonder if the case is just cheap plastic/steel or if it's actually aluminium as the picture is "suggesting"... looks might be decieving.


@Cell
I agree with you 100%, everytime there's something good coming there's always a few who need to bring up old arguments or just plain bit*hing... over and over and friggin over again. Sigh...


@Gav
It's not all that difficult to make a window of your own and there's still the question of if it's even "legal" to use a computer in a case with windows... with all the electrical interference and all.

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i just wish that it had a window in

Use the saw, Luke!

Ciao, Alfred

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>What about a RDB-fsckin' code? Name one instance when this has caused a user (not someone hacking Elbox drivers and were they ever caused any grief) any problems or system failure. Besides which, IIRC they removed the offending code after the fuss that was caused by its discovery.

I totally agree.

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I guess it's becoming the Amiga way -- anytime something positive is announced, bitching and complaining is all that results. I'm surprised people are still working on stuff for the amiga with so many assholes around.

I agree also with you.

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I don't think 150euro for an a1200 tower is too much, but I don't really think that tower looks so good. I'll keep my old ones..

Most of my PC cases cost around £100 to £150 mark (even my mini-itx ones), most of which were supplied without power supplies. I have Lian Li, Coolermaster and Silverstone modes for my PC and I would much rather pay for a well designed high quality case than just use a cheap £30 case that you are guarantied to cut your self on building your computer or adding new hardware.

If the D-Box case is constructed from Aluminium and is of a high quality then the price is not too bad, but from the pictures its hard to tell. So I would say that we should wait or a review before we jump to any conclusions about the value of the case.

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Keep up the good work Elbox , bring Dragon and Shark !
About prices buyers will decide.

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@x56h34

That is a cool avatar.

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Thank you.

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This case seems to be priced at ~40EUR (in original PC/ATX motherboard flavor, before all the Amiga mods done to it). Someone posted a link on amiga.org about it. Let me go and fetch it. Here it is.

If they could only keep the price under 100EUR.

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@opi,

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OK, Mediator was thier product. What about Spider? What about a RDB-fsckin' code? Where's Shark? When we're going to see Dragon?

Have you eaten today? I'm just saying, I get like that when I'm hungry..
Not that you are wrong.. Just .. Hungry maybe?

I think it's really cool and brave of Elbox to continue to support the Classic range of Amigas. It might not be the market to make all those $$$$. But still. Me like.
(edit: dang, with a margin of $155 maybe they will make the $$$$ after all )


/shoe

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You'll probably die of aspyxiation if you hold your breath for the Shark.

Here's your case btw.

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Like I said, the Warp3D licensing didn't have anything to do with P96. Even though some "insiders" will probably tell you that Elbox had different conditions (i.e. was paying more than the others), this is complete nonsense. In fact, nobody of the involved parties did raise any fuss about this except for Elbox. In the end, we came to an agreement. End of story.


Apologies, I thought I read it in Amiga Active. I just checked through back issues and the news item say nothing about the P96 licensing. It seems that over the past few years rather forget details my memory seems to add in details that were never there.
I thought as the Hyperion team are such decent guys, you might made sure that some of the license money found it's way to P96.

Again I'm sorry to have sprad the wrong inforamtion. In the future I'll try to make sure I check my facts before posting.

While we're at does anyone know if Elbox and El-box are part of the same company. Remember I did say they MIGHT make the towers In order to cover my back if I was wrong.