@Rogue

It's weird ! It run just very fine here... but i'm only on OS4 Update 3, u know ! Erm... did you downloaded the right version ? I'll download the version that is online, perhaps there's a problem in the OS4 archive !?

I'm happy that you like it a bit.

@All

Feelin is under developpement, and Gofromiel had some thing to implement (like menus and toolbars), and other ideas too, like... Cairo ? It would be great ! I have other idea too on my side that are just thrilling

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It's weird ! It run just very fine here... but i'm only on OS4 Update 3, u know ! Erm... did you downloaded the right version ? I'll download the version that is online, perhaps there's a problem in the OS4 archive !?

I've downloaded both 68k and OS4 version and copied the OS 4 stuff over.

I'll try to exclude them from JIT, that may be the problem.

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@IKIR

Download the A68k version, uncompress somewhere, and uncompress the OS4 version at the same place ; OS4 files will replace 68k ones.

Only then, launch the setup program.

@Rogue

Now i see that, it's certainly the reason why it crashes : there's required resource files in the 68k archive for the OS4 demos to work properly.

@Rogue

The OS4 version of Feelin is completly nativ, so JIT shouldn't be concerned at all.

must check when i have the time but the video i saw some weeks ago certainly took my breath away!. keep up the good work guys!.

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@Gofromiel

Congratulations, absolutely excellent work!
It's rather crashy (all XML demos crash and also a few binary ones) also here (update #3), but overall the system looks very good and promising.

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Hu... Did I make some mistakes creating the OS4 package ? Feelin works really fine at Hombre's...

Maybe you should try creating your own binaries. Download the sources package and do a make.

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I've downloaded both 68k and OS4 version and copied the OS 4 stuff over. I'll try to exclude them from JIT, that may be the problem.

here the demos from the 68k archive also crash. but the ones from the os4 archive work.
id recommend to delete the content of the demo drawer before copying the os4 verion over.
this worked here.

byebye...

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@Rogue
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However, every Amiga GUI toolkit I came across had a certain degree of SUCKism to it.

Great quote

Unfortunately true. Are we not in the same situation with ReAction currently though, or 'there are plans'?

Feelin looks nice....would like to give it a shot at some point and see how it compares to MUI and reaction. It's sort of obnoxious- MUI4 seems to be a no-show on OS4 at least now, ReAction is more limited, and 'yet another one' is taking a risk and adding some complexity b/c of multiple systems etc, but the current screenshots at least seem to show real progress, and it's also open source, so...? Maybe something to eventually replace MUI at least in the future?

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here the demos from the 68k archive also crash. but the ones from the os4 archive work. id recommend to delete the content of the demo drawer before copying the os4 verion over. this worked here.

Agreed. First 68k demo I tried produced Grim Reaper.
Second PPC demo I tried succeeded.

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Even as I prevere Reaction for classic apps, I see the future for feelin in e.g. mediaplayers.

I always like the idea of "argue" (MUI) used in such interfaces with FroggerNG, etc.
It allowed an ordinary user with a basic understanding of "arguments" to create
their own GUI for almost any program in a very very short time.

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Wow! Really super. Great update.

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Dumb question: How to install Feelin?

Not dumb. It uses "SETUP" instead of the more commonly recognized term "install".

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here the demos from the 68k archive also crash. but the ones from the os4 archive work. id recommend to delete the content of the demo drawer before copying the os4 verion over. this worked here.

Ah, right. My fault. I copied the OS4 files assuming everything would be overwritten
After installing the stuff properly, the only problems I had were that MemoryTest crashed at step (2) and Thread crashed on exit (after CTRL-C; subsequent executions succeeded).
As for the XML applications, it's the XMLApplication tool that crashes (but, after all, it's an M68k binary - in fact, the OS4 Lines demo works flawlessly).

saimo

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The OS4 version of Feelin is completly nativ, so JIT shouldn't be concerned at all.

The "balancing" demo at the lesat does seem to be 68k, and written in E if I interpret this correctly. It always crashes with a stack overrun here, regardless of the stack size.

I can provide a crash log if required, or you can wait until t... oops, almost said too much.

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here the demos from the 68k archive also crash. but the ones from the os4 archive work.

Yes, same here. All the 68k demos seem to produce a grim reaper. I'll have to examine whether this is a problem of the demos or the emulation.

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However, every Amiga GUI toolkit I came across had a certain degree of SUCKism to it.

Yes that's a great one from Rogue.

However I think that this is true for any toolkit on any computer system, be it from the programer's point of view, or the user's. If it's to feature rich, it's often rather slow/sluggish. If it's blazing fast and responsive, than it certainly lacks some features. Or it is nice and good looking, but a PITA for the programmer. You simply can't have it all...

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It's sort of obnoxious- MUI4 seems to be a no-show on OS4 at least now,

The thing with MUI is quit sad IMHO for the 68k people who payed for the keyfile. They are stuck at the old 3.8 (68000 optimized ) version from 1997, even it has been further developed over the years.

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Hmm... there was a bit of a trouble to get it installed.
This is how i did it. I downloaded both the 68k and OS4 archive.
I then unarchived both to ram: and deleted the demos in the 68k/demos/ drawer.
After that I copied all files from the OS4 drawer over to the 68K drawer, thus replacing some files.
I then launched the installer. And it worked, however, when the installer was done, and the prefs window opened, I got this error message;

[prefs] XMLObject{1542AAD4} @ Document.Log>

Error in 'Feelin:resources/xml/feelin/preference/group.xml' 0006: Not enough memory


How about making a new OS4 archive, that is correceted? It's confusing as it is right now. Well well, I am off to explore feelin now.
Looks promising so far, See ya in a while. =)

EDIT: forgot to say that i deleted the 68k demos.

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