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hardware OS4   hardware OS4 : SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
   posted by herewegoagain on 18-Feb-2006 21:24:06 (5229 reads)
A new version of SFS for OS4 is now available for download. This new version supports files greater than 4GB, and some bug fixes.



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kgrach 
Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 20-Feb-2006 0:49:12
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@edit-chick

I don't suffer compensation syndrome. Since I never had any complaints and have actually gotten a few kudos. Don't know if they were just being polite ;)

I do edit and burn DVD's and So I do have some whopper size files.
As you know10 minutes of uncompressed DV video equals ~ 2 gigs.
But for finished DVDs most of my files are broken into chapters.
For editing and burning software file size make no real difference in fact smaller size files are easier and faster to modify.

I don't know why everybody is caught up on storing DVD images because I have never seen a Videographer store DVD images on a Hard drive. HD real estate is too valuable for current projects only.
BTW you store the DVD project files, not DVD images. So software and video projects are normally stored this way. For a software person storing DVD images is never done becuase modifcation of a single file requires a whole new image file to be made. While storing a DVD project makes modifications fast and easy. Same goes for video projects.

Not to call people pirates but most people interested in storing DVD images are people interested in stealing IP.
As for machines that I repair the only ones That I have ever seen with images on them are of copyrighted material that have been stolen. Exception is the odd debian ISO
Video people do have some large files but as stated earlier that doesn't really matter to the software.

64bit is useful but there is a cost involved and that is one of backward compatibility.
there is virtual memory built into OS4 but the limit is 2 gig TOTAL MEMORY
Extending this limit is easily achievable but that would break compatibility for non OS4 software. So right now 2 Gig is the limit. unless you only want to run older progs using UAE.

BTW the limit in Windows XP pro is really 2 Gigs. Before people come on here and get wonky saying according to Microsoft 4 gig is the limit.
Yes and no kernel space is limited to 2 Gigs and Program space is limited to 2 gig. The system can only look at 2 Gigs at one time.
as explained in this microsoft bullitin http://www.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555223

I tend to like things to work right the first time. I will take reliability and performance over Bells and whistles everytime.

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kgrach 
Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 20-Feb-2006 1:28:48
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@all

I hate having to play the devils advocate.
but I do it to help educate people.
I know I don't normally do a good job of it. too emotional
That said

nice job SFS.

I like SFS and have been using it for some time now under OS4.
I will donate for the great support SFS has provided.

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Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 20-Feb-2006 5:08:57
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@kgrach
Quote:
BTW the limit in Windows XP pro is really 2 Gigs. Before people come on here and get wonky saying according to Microsoft 4 gig is the limit.
Yes and no kernel space is limited to 2 Gigs and Program space is limited to 2 gig. The system can only look at 2 Gigs at one time.
as explained in this microsoft bullitin http://www.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555223

That's true, but no programmer worth his salt will load up a file he knows will likely be huge (eg a DVD image) into memory all at once; he will load and process a small piece at a time (how small this piece can be depends on the data, but it would have to be a really braindead file format if it didn't let you stream it in chunks of a few KB at a time). Windows XP will let you create files bigger than 4GB, if you use NTFS:

Quote:
C:\Documents and Settings\Faybs>ver

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]

C:\Documents and Settings\Faybs>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 3C4A-CE23

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Faybs

02/19/2006 08:59 PM .
02/19/2006 08:59 PM ..
01/04/2006 04:46 PM 0 .gtk-bookmarks
02/19/2006 01:45 PM Desktop
12/18/2005 11:36 AM Favorites
02/19/2006 04:49 PM My Documents
06/19/2005 02:06 PM Start Menu
02/19/2006 08:57 PM 6,779,479,008 profile.dat
06/19/2005 09:30 PM WINDOWS
2 File(s) 6,779,479,008 bytes
7 Dir(s) 53,491,036,160 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\Faybs>

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Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 20-Feb-2006 12:24:00
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exellent news!

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Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 20-Feb-2006 19:02:14
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I was afraid of SFS when it first came out. I don't remember now what it was that put me off about SFS. I've just carried on happily using FFS. I've never been plagued with problems.

So tell me, was SFS buggy when first released?

Why should I [an average Joe] be interested in SFS now? Convice me, I am all ears.

EDIT: I just read ToAks' "Walkthrough" article, seems straight forward enough for new setups. I wish I had read this before getting another hard drive and doing a fresh install of AOS4 Update 4. I don't feel like doing backups and reinstalling all of my software again.
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Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 21-Feb-2006 0:47:22
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Speed is the main thing about SFS.

* Delete & dir scan especially will be MANY times faster.
* Load speed can be 25-100% faster aswell.


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Re: SFS for OS4 Supports >4GB Files
Posted on 21-Feb-2006 0:58:20
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@kgrach

Well on my Windows machine I use big files.
I copy my latest bought DVD movies to a 250GB harddrive which then
is connected to my home theather. These .ISO files tend to get alot
bigger than 4GB, often up to 8.5GB even for some discs.
So when I want to watch a movie I just mount the .ISO file and stream
it through my videoplayer. Nice and easy without the fuss of having
to mess with discs.. Especially when you have friends over and you're
going to watch a movie. Just select with the mouse on the movie screen.

I agree that there's no real need for those file sizes (+4GB) on the Amiga
yet, but it's better to prepare now than have to hurry it later.


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Posted on 21-Feb-2006 5:11:59
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@codesmith

Yes I know that NTFS lets you create bigger files than 4 Gig.

I was talking about the amount of memory that XP supports in that instance.

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