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Hardware News   Hardware News : TAM EXCLUSIVE! Individual Computers Reveals Clone-A Project
   posted by rhino on 11-Oct-2006 6:59:51 (11324 reads)
In an exclusive interview with Total Amiga's Magnus Johnson, to be published in issue 25, Jens Schoenfeld reveals Individual Computers' latest project. For the last year Jens and Oliver Achten have been working on a cycle-accurate reproduction of the Amiga chipset in FPGAs under the codename Clone-A.

Jens and Oliver will be demonstrating prototype versions of the Clone-A chips mounted in a real A500 motherboard at the AmiWest show on the 21st of October. To prove the compatibility of the implementation, even in its current form, Jens encourages show visitors to bring along A500 compatible disks to the show to try on the Clone-A.



As Total Amiga 25 won't be out until after the show, we have published an extract from the interview in PDF format. The extract describes the Clone-A in detail, traces its history and explains the current state of development. Jens also looks to the future at the possible uses for this technology once it is complete. Included in the PDF are detailed photos of the FPGA development boards. The extract PDF is a free download from the Total Amiga web site:

http://www.totalamiga.org/issue25.html
    

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Re: TAM EXCLUSIVE! Individual Computers Reveals Clone-A Proj
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O_o there is just too much cool news these days! =)


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Now this is good news.

I like it when it's not vapourware.


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Neat!

How's about a faster Buster chip too? :)


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This is fan-smegging-tastic! (whoops too much red dwarf last night )
Now I have two things to look forward to in 2008 1) Futurama and 2) Clone-A

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Does this maybe open up the possibility of a amiga in a joystick?

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Ok, you finally convinced me. I used to be an Amigaworld subscriber!

Your interviews with David Haynie first got my attention.

I am looking forward to my first issue as I just subscribed -- I mean right now!

Simon


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@techie

Futurama's coming back!?

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Welcome on Amigaworld, Simon.


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@Rit
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Yeah, Comedy Central had a press release stating they are doing up 13 new episodes for 2008.

@Tomas
I'd imagine it could certainly open up that possibility and more. Personally I'd also like to see them come out in the form of replacement motherboards for classic systems. I mean come on how cool would it be to have an A1000 with a AGA chipset (okay so that's more of a Clone-B system but you know what I mean )

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Could someone please carve his last sentence in stone?

Along with 84% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Seriously though, most of us know how hard it is to go from R&D to product. We know most of them will fail. We don't need reminding every time some small bit of h/w news shows up. Yeah, there are a few that get all excited and then get disappointed but don't go assuming we are all so ignorant and need reminding every time.


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@techie

That is so cool


Man, cheer up ssolie

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Most impressive!


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Re implementing the A500 is mostly useless to me, but if I can get chipsets on a PCI card, so when ever a hardware banging program tries to access some hardware under AmigaOS4, it can access the pci FPGA card.. now that be nice, just think about having access to CIA timers for legacy trackers and music program, and having access to HAM/HAM8 video modes, and not only this having access to the Paula sound chip that be cool to, less crashing, less E-UAE, more fun


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Bl**dy amazing! Will the Amiga community never cease to amaze me. Just when you begin to think it's all over, up comes another potentially exciting product! Now if only it could run OS4.0

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I'd imagine it could certainly open up that possibility and more. Personally I'd also like to see them come out in the form of replacement motherboards for classic systems. I mean come on how cool would it be to have an A1000 with a AGA chipset (okay so that's more of a Clone-B system but you know what I mean )


That would be very cool, especially if it had a PPC chip on it and could run OS4.

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Very cool, an ITX based A500 .

Any word on the A600 030 accelerators?

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You know, on paper this is cool but in reality, I couldn't care less.

When I first got my A500 even though it was leaps and bounds ahead of the C128 I'd been using before I understood that it had it's limitations - that it's CPU wasn't all that fast, that RAM was a concern, and that I needed a mass-storage device beyond two floppy drives.

The least impressive thing to me was those awful trackloading NDOS: bootable floppies. I wish there'd been something like WHDLoad back in the day.

Recreating such a thing is anathema to me. Yeah, "new" custom chips and all but really...honestly, a system that's compatible with the old chips but still manages to move forward would be of more interest to me: something that by default has a 2mb Agnus (or hell, why not go the WinUAE route and make it the 8mb chip-ram version?), a couple of PCI slots, etc.

That'd get my attention. Not a clone of a machine that was outdated as soon as it was offered for sale by C=.


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One thing that my mini-itx board will surely have is an A1200 CPU slot, so people can continue


So could one potentially attach the PVLT to this Mini-ITX board (in theory)?

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Not a clone of a machine that was outdated as soon as it was offered for sale by C=.


Outdated??The A500 was ahead of his time.What have you smoked this time?


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@Herewegoagain
Now that's a very interesting question

If not the PVLT then how about a coldfire board?

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