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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 22-Jan-2007 19:15:30
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| It was the orginal Arstechnica review that finaly push me over to buy my µA1 board. _________________ Rage quited 29th May 2011
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 22-Jan-2007 19:53:18
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"Whats the TFB"
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 22-Jan-2007 20:17:59
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| Well i got it confirmed that it doesn't take 30 minutes, so i don't really care. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:16:18
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| @DaveAE
Hi Dave,
It could actually take upto 30mins if the user isn't used to the AmigaOS way of handling things and a new harddrive, which would need partioning and formatting, was used. Anyway this is nowhere near how long Windows takes.
If it's just a update from update 4 then yes I suppose 10-15mins is correct. I think my update to final didn't take much more than 10mins either. Reading the PDF, making a backup of the system partion, updating the SLB, formatting my system partion, then booting the CD and starting the installation. Last edited by Samwel on 23-Jan-2007 at 02:19 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:29:54
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The Amiga brand acid test has yet to be attempted. |
How many hardware vendors bought a licence from AInc to be allowed to sell hardware bundled with AmigaOS? I.e. how many thought it was worth and made sense to pay for riding on the Amiga(TM) brand to shift more of their hardware? Zero? (One, if you count Eyetech, but they started this disaster and they were already in "our market").
How many pieces of hardware that were marketed with the "AmigaOne" brand were sold in four years? 1,300?
How big a success have all the various Amiga(TM)Whatever PocketPC solutions from AInc been?
How many of AInc's "partnerships" turned out to exist at all, or to come to some sort of fruition?
I think that examples like these show that the brand itself is rather worthless. If it's supposed to be used, then it needs to be applied to products that people actually would want to buy. By now, I suspect that the brand has gotten a negative value, and to make up for this any products must be even better, cheaper and easier to buy now than before AInc laid their grubby mitts on the brand.
@news item:
"AmigaOne News"? It's "Software News", or "Internet News", surely?
(BTW, am I blind, or is there no way to browse news per category?) _________________ Oh, bother.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:40:29
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| Well written review. Detailed and held a positive light on the Amiga.
I remember reading this a couple of years ago (well almost). His writing style makes you want to read more and more. He hit the high points while not lambasting the deficits.
To read this article again put a bit of a smile on my face! _________________ Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:42:31
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| hi i am new here, i had my amiga until 1999 then i was forced to sell it and upgrade to window98 pc. that is what i am using rigth now, i need a new computer soon and want an modern computer like amiga again. i just read this fine article, so i am wondering where can i buy this amigaos4.0 and hw when it comes for sale?.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:49:38
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| @Seehund
Still angry I see.. That you still have the strength to be is amazing by itself.
Yes, Amiga is dead, the licence scheme sucks, Amiga Inc is stupid, no point in making OS4 for custom hardware, we know.. You have told us on multiple occasions. _________________ /Harry
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:53:11
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| is that true? i guess i have to buy a vista pc then.
greets mr. spackles Last edited by Mr.Spackles on 23-Jan-2007 at 02:54 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 2:57:07
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| @Mr.Spackles
There's a dealers section here on AmigaWorld.net. Just choose a dealer near you.
But depending on what you're going to do with your new computer I wouldn't recommend Amiga, just yet. It still lacks some important stuff. Mainly a good browser and a native, still developed, office package or, atleast, word processor.
When OS4 gets these it's still not a OS for noobs (not computer experienced). But I hope it can become in the next few bigger updates to OS4.0. _________________ /Harry
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 3:04:23
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 3:11:37
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| @Samvel
i see i wait then a little bit more
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 3:47:31
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| @ Mr Spackles
They let you out of the Bunny ?
WHY ?
You were having such AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 4:23:16
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| Jeremy,
Fine review, in my opinion. Cool little system you have in that picture.
Now, to try out some of those applications you mentioned.
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(edit -- I'm a little sleepy.) Last edited by redfox on 23-Jan-2007 at 05:08 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 9:15:36
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| Well I think 30 minutes is more or less the time you use to boot, fiddle with the Harddisk when it's a new one, setting internetconnection and a few other things. he also mentioned mailing with his OS4machine , so you should count that in also.
Compared to installing windowsXP sp2 , updating to explorer 7 en mediaplayer 11, endless security updates and some internet security software... that costs 2 hours before you know it, if it isn't 3 _________________ - Proud Member Of The Belgian Amigaclub Since 2003 -
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 9:17:39
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how many thought it was worth and made sense to pay for riding on the Amiga(TM) brand to shift more of their hardware? |
Acube system, ack, troika........it´s ironic but the problem is not that companies not want to pay Ainc for a licence, the problem is that Ainc seems not want to give licences
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In reality they were sold in one year, only one batch were produced.so count all these years that Aone weren´t produced as selling years is create confusion
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Even Microsoft were interested in AmigaDE for their (garbage) WindowsCE and partened with Ainc.do you remember? Or you only have selective memory?
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Now, that is a good question
Well, only one of four of your (rhetoric)question has sense and cannot be refuted, that is what i call lie, confusing and trolling _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 10:54:07
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| This is the first review I have read which makes me want to go out and buy the hardware and OS4. Alas, no hardware in the first place. It's unfortunate that Hyperion cannot align itself with a hardware manufacturer, re-compile and sell while the "iron is hot" so to speak.
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 16:13:00
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I think that examples like these show that the brand itself is rather worthless. If it's supposed to be used, then it needs to be applied to products that people actually would want to buy. |
A couple of thousand units advertised and sold to only Amiga fans does not count in my book. Clearly there needs to be an entire range of new Amiga branded products and they need to be pushed outside of our tiny web forum community and small Amiga magazine readership. This has yet to be attempted because Amiga Inc. are still holding the brand close to their chest and not allowing anyone to give it a real try. So until we see AmigaOS powered products in Wired Magazine, etc. I say the brand acid test has not even been attempted yet. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 16:19:37
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| @Samwel Quote:
Yes, Amiga is dead, the licence scheme sucks, Amiga Inc is stupid, no point in making OS4 for custom hardware, we know.. You have told us on multiple occasions. |
I don't mind the message so much as the way it is presented myself. If you want to convince someone your ideas are correct then perhaps yelling and screaming and stomping on bananas is not the most effective approach. Especially when it has proven totally futile in the last how many years now? Reminds me of one definition of insanity. Doing exactly the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Then again, we Amiga people aren't well known for our mental stability. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: AmigaOS 4 review on Arstechnica. Posted on 23-Jan-2007 17:02:31
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| Hey,
I LIKE Seehunds chase the banana avatar... looks kewl!! _________________ ****************************************** I dont suffer from Insanity - I enjoy it
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