reading the AAA specs now, it would have blown everything else away, at that time if it had been a reality.

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Sounds good. Is the cw.device released yet? I searched OS4Depot and no results.

Yes there exits an older version on OS4Depot,
you did not find it because the archive where called cw_trackdisk.lha

http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/storage/cw_trackdisk.lha

Any I can release new version any day I decided, new version of cw.device has been ready for some time now, whit the exception of the CrossDOS bug issue.

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So what’s next classic chipsets on PCI card?

Or a complete Amiga computer?

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This is teriffic news! Finally someone who wants to reinvent the Amiga instead of replacing it! If this goes to production, I'll buy one.

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But he is replacing it, chip by chip

I don’t think Jens Schönfeld can turn back time, or some how come up some thing as revolutionary that some how beats the current ATI, Nivida graphics 3D/24 bit graphic cards, but CloneA can be useful to bring back dead Amiga hardware back to life, or too give newer Amiga computer more backwards compatibility it is a interesting project.

I see some developers tiring to make chipset emulators for AmigaOS4 that will enable old software to run, but I’m sceptical bout how compatible software emulation like that can be.

That’s way I use E-UAE but it don’t always act the same way as real hardware, it’s where noticeable when chipsets are heavily used.

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Yeah! a Buster that would allow Zorro3 full speed (100MB/s)


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imagine replacement chips that allows an a500 to have aga or better graphics and a faster processor.

yea i know this probably won't happen but it would be nice

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imagine replacement chips that allows an a500 to have aga or better graphics and a faster processor

Or even AAA chipset Dream is so easy.......... but sometimes dreams come true

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Just wanted to give you all a quick report on the Catweasel Joystick Drivers.

For this test I am using WinUAE and VICE (Vic 20 and C64).

The joysticks show up in the Game Controllers area of the Windows Control panel as:

Amiga/C64 Joystick Port 1
Amiga/C64 Joystick Port 2
Amiga/C64 Paddle Port 1
Amiga/C64 Paddle Port 2

I have tried the new drivers with a standard Wico Bat handle single button 9 pin Atari/Commodore Joystick and a original Amiga brand CD32 Gamepad.

My hopes were to have the drivers recognize at least 2 buttons for each joystick, and can maybe be set to recognize all of the buttons on an original Amiga branded CD32 gamepad for full WinUAE CD32 compatiblity.

Here are the results and issues I have seen up to this point..

It looks like the new drivers for the joystick work pretty good!

The joysticks recognize as Windows type joysticks with 1 button and can be calibrated correctly and easily.

The only problems I have seen so far are:

1) CD32 Gamepads only show as one button (getting closer to CD32 pads in UAE for full compatiblity I must say)

2) CD32 Gamepad Fire button (Red Button) only works in "rapid fire" mode, meaning that if you hold the button it will not stay on but quickly go on and off repeatively. The one button joystick works correctly however. The CD32 Gamepad works exactly the same way on a Sega Mastersystem so it must be a strange behavior with the CD32 gamepad)

3) It would be nice if the there was 2 button support for the Sega Mastersystem/Sega Genesis gamepads since the original Amiga could recognize 2 buttons for games like Street Fighter II. (Punch Button & a Kick Button) I used to use an Epyx 2 button Sega Mastersystem joystick to play SFII on my Amiga 500.

4) I cannot seem to get the new drivers to work correctly in WinUAE (latest version Cloanto offers via their update program). When I select the Amiga/C64 Joystick Port 1 or 2 driver in WinUAE it does not seem to recognize the joystick. If I go back to the Catweasel Joystick [1] or [2] it works, but I think those were built into WinUAE a while back.

Paddle Driver

I have not tried out the Paddle drivers yet as I dont have a pair of paddle readily available to test but as soon as I pick some up I will try them out as well.

I just wanted to give you all a quick heads up if you are interested in how the new joy drivers are working out.

To the driver writer and Jens, Great Job! If you all can get the 2 button support and the CD32 pads to be fully usable you will have a perfect driver for your excellent hardware!!

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Or even AAA chipset

Sorry no AAA, as Oliver (Project leader) does not allow AGA incompatible ChipSet in "his" Clone-A. I suggest we wait for the FPGA based Clone-A (itx?) board. As the code in the FPGA is upgradable we could/should see Clone-A evolving to AGA.

I think Jens suggested in Total Amiga that one or the other upgrade (e.g. better Blitter should be possible), but that's a long road to come...

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Or even AAA chipset Dream is so easy.......... but sometimes dreams come true

It should technically be possible if there is still one of the three AAA boards. I know at least one of the three is dead.

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Yeah! a Buster that would allow Zorro3 full speed (100MB/s)

ding ding ding ding

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Zorro3 had a max speed of about 15-16MB/s in burst mode.
Compare that to PCI which came 3-4 years after, about 133MB/s (@ 33MHz - 32bit).
Now we have PCI-e which have 256MB/s per lane, which today come in max 16x
lanes in one slot. This gives 4GB/s. PCI-e also works in full duplex, meaning 4GB/s
each direction at the same time.

I remember reading the AAA documents stating that Commodore was developing
Zorro4 which essentially would have been in par with PCI. I think they would have
opted to go the PCI route. All PC hardware directly compatible with Amigas back
then, only drivers needed. Would have been amazing in 94-95.

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It should technically be possible if there is still one of the three AAA boards. I know at least one of the three is dead.

As there is no wide software base for AAA (none?), why should someone bother to "clone" theses faulty chips, and then iron the bugs out? Maybe better take the AAA specs and write from scratch, or implement certain features to AGA keeping it compatible to AGA if possible?

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Donar wrote: As there is no wide software base for AAA (none?), why should someone bother to "clone" theses faulty chips, and then iron the bugs out? Maybe better take the AAA specs and write from scratch, or implement certain features to AGA keeping it compatible to AGA if possible?

Would it not be better to AGA chipset, instead of implementing a new and unused one (AAA), but allow better integration of PCI, PCI-e, DDR2 ram, etc.
Thereby utilising the A1200 software on modern hardware.

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Would it not be better to AGA chipset, instead of implementing a new and unused one (AAA), but allow better integration of PCI, PCI-e, DDR2 ram, etc.

Why bother having AGA in your computer when you are going to only/mostly use a Voodoo and Soundblaster for the things the AMIGA was famous for? - Just a thought.

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@All

Let's get grounded here and realise what we really have. AGA and AAA is a ncie discusion, but for the first tim in a long time, we have the potential for replacement parts and new A500, A2000 hardware. This is very real. I just wonder what products Jen's will release. Would they create replica A2000/A500 machines?

I am sure the A500 could be much smaller and use smart cards as floppies ;) or USB memory sticks.

Truly good news. I would not be surprised if there is something ready for Christmas 07.

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Congratulations. It looks like a nice "proof of concept" demo. This is a nice product for you guys. However, what makes you think you can clone the AGA chipset when nobody before you has? i.e. Boxer made the best attempt and spent lots of $$ and even Joe Torre said it wasnt possible... thanks and good luck.

realize