@pavlor:
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Probably old pre-FE kernel. I will wait for Update 9 (or what they will call it) and then judge.

It doesn't matter: we are talking of 2-3 lines of code which are set in the stone from several years, which the patch simply removes.
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On the other hand, with enough RAM WinUAE could be good intoduction to OS4 world for future hardware customers. Don´t search any conspiracy, it is more probably only ideological barrier (emulation? what blasphemy! ).

No, it isn't called conspiracy: it's called partnership...

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Quote: There can be people who used modern GUIs on other systems and can have different demands now than you. No-one is forcing those people to use an OS they don't/won't like.

If this rule would apply on all software, there would be no advancement.
Most developers improve software to meet demands of their users/customers instead of telling them if you are not happy f*** off.

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Usually when do things for other people you do it because you need the money.


What I normally do make software I like to use, I cannot care what other people think. But it's more fun for me if someone else finds it useful.


When it comes to Hyperion is issue of lack project management, and money.
I'm pretty sure people have told them we need UTF8 support, better printing, better 3D, more software, more games, and better SMP support, hardware accelerated video decoding (UVD). and so on, and so on.


I'm sure they are working on some of this but problems remain, money and management.

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One thing I hate about Amiga OS / workbench is when you open folders it keeps opening multiply windows so you end up with a screen full of windows. Forward and back buttons and a single window would be nice

I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot here and point out that MorphOS's Ambient has that

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"While the original leak seems to stem from someone outside of the active community, it is even more sad to see quite some of the remaining active users happily participate in distributing this unauthorised copy, compromising years of development work and all possible future versions of AmigaOS and therefore biting the hand that feeds them against all common sense and in blatant violation of copyright."

Your press release did not need to contain this sentence. It makes you look petty.

@cryingamiga

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@zzd10h

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Therefore, is a "loyal customer" like me can ask why FE was released more than 1 year ago and why no fix were published (despite a lot of bug reports on your forum) ?

A fix for what? What are the bugs? Just the usual?

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14 years in development and still no real printer support.

I emailed an OS4 developer about this many moons ago and he told me it was the job of the manufactuer to create printer drivers. I guess that explains why there haven't been any new ones in a while.

Even I am surprised the "old" driver I compiled and updated to OS4Depot years ago is still popular and one of the first go to's people have for a driver. Somehow I learned a lesson in marketing there that was the OS4 printer team has yet to catch up on.

@Hypex

Buahahahaha. What a BS. A Printer manufacturer has to create printer drivers for AmigaOS? In which world does the developer live?

I am really suprised to read so many stupid things in this forum. How is this possible?

Which developer told you such a thing? This is ridiculous...

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@thread making snarky unhelpful remarks
Thanks for reminding me why I don't visit AW.net very often

(Was I too hopeful that people might discuss the actual news item, rather than use it to bash OS4/Hyperion? Hint: There are forums if you wish to moan about a particular topic. No need to bring it up in every unrelated thread & news item.)

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What could be a helpful comment in such a situation?

I am unhappy with Hyperion and I wrote that down. I wrote down some ideas for them, but the situation didn't change since years.

What options do I have to make AmigaOS development becoming more professional?

It's true - the forum is a way to show how disappointed I am - and it's not helping in any way. But the frustration can at least be written down somewhere. If Hyperion doesn't care about frustrated users, that's their decision.

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Yes but you don't find new source code in old AmigaOS3.x source code from 80's.
I don't understand how printer drivers come from there.

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What's with the printers ? I bought a very recent Hewlett Packard M252n color laserjet and it does print all I want with the postscript/network thing. All you have to do is to think twice what printer you buy. I did and in return I can print perfectly fine from my A1 with OS4.1fe (and MorphOS, my A4000 with OS3.9 ,my IPAD, my Linux Mint Laptop ,my desktop with Windows7 and probably my android phone also if I want that ) .

Why do you expect Hyperion to do what Commodore also didn't do ? Basic support yes ... but there was Turboprint and Studio professional for a reason.

That said I don't like a few things either with OS4.1 ... but probably only because I got spoiled the last 15 years or so since microsoft gave the world XP and windows 7 and I don't have to do a lot of head scratching to get things working.

Long story short . Be realistic.

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I emailed an OS4 developer about this many moons ago and he told me it was the job of the manufactuer to create printer drivers.

That only happens with "mainstream" o.ses. All other o.ses, OS4/MorphOS/AROS included, need to write drivers by themselves (or recycle, if possible, some from the above mainstream ones).

@cdimauro

I think printer drivers are waste of time. Far more important is document compatibility, so I can print my documents on any PC.

@xenic
"What are the bugs?"

Very very long threads about them
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2812
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2905

I imagine that some of them have been fixed since many months.
My initial question (first comment) was "Why the wonderful AmiUpdate system introduced in OS4.1.6 is not used to send fixes to all OS4 users ?"

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My initial question (first comment) was "Why the wonderful AmiUpdate system introduced in OS4.1.6 is not used to send fixes to all OS4 users ?"

Can't say for os4 dev-team, but probably because those ones who was most active when introduce it as default os component for deliver fixes and promote about it like "now its all will be cool", busy with all the other stuff, or real life :)

Probably its all the same as always: lack of resources and lack of money.

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@Kas1e
Yes, you should be right but you, as a betatester, you certainly received updates/bugfixes during this year...

In my first comment, I made a mistake because I certainly misunderstood this sentence :
"AmigaOS 4.x is an actively developed product on sale"

OK, I go out

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