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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 11-Apr-2004 18:20:58
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Thank you. _________________ A1200T 603e 330Mhz - Mediator TX OS4.1 F.E. CDTV 8MB Fast, OS3.1, SCSI, MicroSD SCSI & CD32 FMV X5000, X1000, A1XE with OS4.1F.E.
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 11-Apr-2004 18:29:40
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Well, actually, thank you is in place, I believe! _________________ A1G4XE, OS4-pre
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 11-Apr-2004 20:45:25
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 11-Apr-2004 21:19:39
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 11-Apr-2004 23:58:16
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So I was wondering, ... will the guide be available in an easy to find location on Amigaworld.net or some other website? |
I'm sure it will remain in a prominate place here on Amigaworld.net, maybe even under the "Tutorials" section. I don't know that's where it will go for sure, without confirming with DaveyD and staff, but that seems to be the most logical place for it. |
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 5:32:39
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| redfox- Quote:
However, I know I would want to follow the guide at the same time as I was actually doing the upgrade and install on the AmigaOne.
So, I would be viewing the guide on a pc or "classic" Amiga.
So I was wondering, ... |
Those exact thoughts occured to myself last night, so today I printed out the Guide via the eMac. It came to 30 pages (BTW, change the Print> Gamma setting to 1.5 to lighten the GREY background). _________________ -vortexau, who's A1 XE-G4 remains at half-RAM ! A2000HD (from 1991) 060 64Mb PicassoII with OS3.5 . . . still working.
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 5:46:46
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| Steff- Quote:
I don't think it should be any problem for someone who's managed to get Debian working.
From the Amiga OS4 installer html guide:
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However, if you previously created a RDB partitioned hard disk, with some free space available for OS4, then please proceed to the add AmigaOne booter steps below and then on to partition steps to add your OS4 partition in the available space. |
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And if you've just hung on to your present Debian installation (by the skin of your teeth) either by just good luck, or by not "playing" around with it TOO much . . . . and that is inclusive with the 'option' of NOT having "a RDB partitioned hard disk"; then fitting a SECOND hard disk is the obvious option.
So, if AmigaOS4.0 is installed to a HDD fitted to the Primary>Slave connection . . . it'll STILL be a bootable option? Or, must this HDD be Secondary>Master? _________________ -vortexau, who's A1 XE-G4 remains at half-RAM ! A2000HD (from 1991) 060 64Mb PicassoII with OS3.5 . . . still working.
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 6:25:19
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| This is all extremely cool, and I'm now going to start looking at my mailbox every day, to see if it's arrived yet
There's only one thing that worries me a bit, that is the section where one preps UBoot; if your boot settings ever get cleared (and it's happened to me on a couple of occasions, I suspect power surges were responsible) and you lose the manual where the commands are written, you're kinda hosed. Why couldn't there be a "load OS4 defaults" command similar to the "load bios defaults" option on x86 BIOS'es? seems to be a very newbie-unfriendly thing to require the commands to be typed in, and I would recommend that, unless there's a very good reason not to, a "load OS4 defaults" command be added before the mini-ITX motherboards are widely distributed. |
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 12:41:01
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| Wonderful News!!
Great big fuzzyhugs, cheers and beers to all involved in the OS4 efforts to date. Just came back from an Easter break with the family and I find this waiting for me when I check in here for the first time in days...
Have resolved to go on more holidays with the family to see if this will speed up the OS4 release process - Funds for holidays needed, please PM me with your pledge if you wish to speed the development process along by sending me somewhere warmer and sunnier than here in Melbourne at the moment.
Am now looking forward to the day when I can once again say 'Made on Amiga' on all my web offerings, even if I have to code HTML until my eyes fall out of my head, it'll be worth it!
Doug _________________ logicalheart wrote: You know that pretty sound you play when the computer starts? You need another one to play when the computer is actually ready to use. Maybe add more for malfunctions and then we'll have music all day.
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 20:26:24
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| Ooooh, nice.
One thing though, wouldn't it be better to have the U-Boot updater image in the bootblock of the CD-ROM? Then you could just diskboot 500000 x:0 to update U-Boot rather than flaffing around creating boot floppies. Mind you, I guess this isn't possible due to there being two versions of the updater.
Chris _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 21:02:24
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NOOOOOOOOOO!
No more ISO's!!
Just let them release this one and have it done with, if it turns out okay, please!
By the way, shouldn't the current pre-release Beta ISO be pretty much ready to go into mass production by now, if everything was indeed okay? Any status report on that one? Anyone? _________________ A1G4XE, OS4-pre
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 21:40:16
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| EXCITED!!!!!
I will have the money to buy an A1 in a month or two, weeeeeee!!!
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 12-Apr-2004 23:10:23
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Unfortunately, it isn`t currently possible to have the UBoot updater and the SLB both in the bootblock of the CD.
The updater program requires no OS to do it`s job, and runs directly within UBoot.
If the updater image was burned to the CD then OS4 would not be able to be booted straight from the CD.
Considering that the UBoot update procedure is something you`ll only ever do once for each version, it is regarded that the CD have more facilities to be a recover/bootable OS CD.
Makes sense, no? _________________ Simon
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 6:13:12
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| That's a good point - the Install CD can be used as a recover CD if you manage to break the system. Apart from a clean install, it has MTB, Shell, etc in the AmiDock and all the other system tools in their normal drawers.
Interesting that the only criticism so far is directed at the operation of U-Boot (not Hyperion's work), rather than at the OS4 installation.
Since there have been several interim versions for beta-testers, I've reserved a small partition (but it could be a directory somewhere) with all my personal enhancements/preferences on it. Once the basic install is done, I simply copy over all those settings and the system becomes the way I like to run it. Sorta like a "skin", except that it's "inside", if you know what I mean.
I also have OS4 on a partition all by itself - all apps are on another partition, so it's easy to replace the whole system when a new version is released.
tony _________________ cheers tony
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Re: SCSI install? Posted on 13-Apr-2004 6:53:34
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| Looking over the (quite excellent, I must say) install instructions, I didn't see anything about installing OS4 on a SCSI drive. I'm planning on getting a U-Boot recognizeable SCSI card and hoped to put AOS4 there. I haven't looked through the U-Boot settings for a while (I have the December 1.0.0 release), but I do think I remember seeing a SCSI Disk choice for the boot devices. In section 6 when first using the Media Toolbox, the instructions say to select a1ide.device. Is there also an a1scsi.device option to choose? (If not, I suppose Debian moves to the SCSI drive and AOS4 will have to go on the 80MB IDE drive...) _________________ Member: Team AMIGA & A1 tech @ Software Hut --} Sembazuru
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 10:43:11
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However, I know I would want to follow the guide at the same time as I was actually doing the upgrade and install on the AmigaOne. |
When looking at this screenshot I was wondering if the item "OS4-InstallGuide.htm" and the icon above it actually were part of the background as kind of a teaser or, well, what the heck the people are about "viewing the guide on a pc or "classic" Amiga" or even printing it out
I don't have that option, only an AmigaOne here (and a non-working A4000), and it appears I don't even need another machine for just reading the guide . 'tis AmigaOS after all, where you don't need to (at least not in printed form), switch on and go, everything there, just
Before I leave, thanks to anyone involved developing, writing documentation and translating, beta-testing and last not least the ones showing and presenting it to those who could not attend an OS4 event before (..and before the pre-release CD's ship. Today, April 13, would be a good day to press the gold master..
But Nevermind, Come As You Are the next is on me (even if I don't drink beer) and Kurt's yet alive (who was Elvis anyway?) :headbang smiley (mmh, the "banghead" does not fit here :-/ That's it for my Smiley quota..)
Ciao, Alex _________________ machine : AmigaOne G3SE / AmigaOne XE / Teron CX / Teron PX clock : 800 MHz cpu : 7455, alt
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 13:52:57
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| Looks like you A1 users will be getting a real AMiga like OS for your systems at last. Just how far away is this release? |
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 18:15:37
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Ah, I didn't realise the SLB needed to be in the bootblock of the CD (though it makes sense). Shame U-Boot can't run U-Boot images off of a filesystem, as that would be a way around it
Chris _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 18:56:51
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Re: A1 OS4 Developer pre-release Install Guide Posted on 13-Apr-2004 18:59:32
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| O!! and did I mention This is brilliant!!! _________________
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