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Software News   Software News : OS4 native CAMD and emu10kx MIDI driver
   posted by DaveAE on 16-Apr-2005 17:58:33 (6966 reads)
I've submitted my port of the MIDI library CAMD to OS4depot. It includes the OS4 native port of the AROS sources, originally by Kjetil Matheussen. Next to that it also has a native emu10kx CAMD driver. You have to use these two in combination, since the driver model changed for OS4.

Since I didn't find people to test it, here is your chance.

And before you ask, yes, I intend to write a driver for the onboard gameport and also the Vivaldi interface. Don't ask me when though...

Kind regards,

Davy Wentzler
    

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Re: OS4 native CAMD and emu10kx MIDI driver
Posted on 18-Apr-2005 15:31:27
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NP, but any ideas why it's working for others, but not for me?


I don't think we have seen any evidence that it works for anybody yet.

I have tried HD-Rec and was able to play a MIDI file with the software synth "Sweeper". It could only play MIDI files with a few tracks and low note density. Otherwise it says I don't have the CPU power. I tried playing it through the Gameport interface, my sound module showed no incoming MIDI data.

I tried Horny too. It shows no MIDI ports, and won't let me add any.

If there is anyone out there who has sucessfully played a MIDI file on OS4 thru the Gameport interface, on a synthesizer or sound module -- please tell us what you used.

I look forward to the day when I hear the first note from an external MIDI device.

In the mean time I'm running Dr. T's KCS 3.5 on Amiga Forever. I'm converting all my old KCS files to MIDI standard file format and moving them to my A1.


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Re: OS4 native CAMD and emu10kx MIDI driver
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Well, it works for me obviously.

Ok, you DO have an SB live card, right?
The fact that you use a softsynth causes lots of cpu to be used, especially since it's emulated. This has nothing to do with CAMD.

Last edited by DaveAE on 18-Apr-2005 at 03:52 PM.


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Re: OS4 native CAMD and emu10kx MIDI driver
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To Davy:

> Ok, you DO have an SB live card, right?

I'm not the one you answered to, but I also can't get it to work. A1 XE, with SB-Live!

At least, Horny shows NO midi-ports at all, and the old midiports allows only for the "internal serial"...

HD-Record prefs. calls midiports (and gives an old guru, the yellow one blinking on top of the screen with the "left button" stuff)


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Re: OS4 native CAMD and emu10kx MIDI driver
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Poster: DaveAE Date: 18-Apr-2005 9:50:34

Well, it works for me obviously.

Ok, you DO have an SB live card, right?


I realize this wasn't directed at me either, but it's good to know that I'm not the only one having problems. I'm wondering if it's because us regular users are missing something that the beta-testers have. Anyway my setup is a Casio CZ-101 connected by a MIDI gameport adaptor to the SB Live!'s gameport/MIDI outlet at the back of my A1-XE G4. I was using Horny Lite just fine and HD-Rec somewhat with the old Rube Goldberg driver/library setup, but with the new OS4 native CAMD replacement Horny is giving a flashing yellow Guru before starting up and, as mentioned, nothing appears as MIDI ports. I'm confident you'll track down the problem, DaveAE!


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If there is anyone out there who has sucessfully played a MIDI file on OS4 thru the Gameport interface, on a synthesizer or sound module -- please tell us what you used.


I have, using HD-Rec via the gameport on my SBLive. I've been controlling my drum machine with it.
You have to change the preferences:

R-amiga-P, brings up prefs requester.
Select the 'midi' tab.
Change 'in.0' to 'emu10kx.in.o'.
Save that and it should work.

[qutoe]it says I don't have the CPU power.[/quote]

I'm afraid you're just gonna have to live with that until we have Petunia integrated.
You'll also notice the timing goes to pieces if you move the mouse whilst playing a midi track. Not ideal. :-/


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@DaveAE

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Ok, you DO have an SB live card, right?


Yes, I have a SB Live card.

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The fact that you use a softsynth causes lots of cpu to be used, especially since it's emulated. This has nothing to do with CAMD.


Yes, I know that it's due to all the emulation that's going on. And I know it has nothing to do with CAMD. I only mentioned it as something that sort of worked, as something I had tried. If nothing else it showed that HD-Rec was properly installed and that it could load a .MID file and play it.

I used MIDI on my Amigas for 12 years and never knew how it worked, which pieces of software made it work, or what those pieces of software did. I'm just a "User" who is eager to get the MIDI flowing on my A1. I am grateful for all of the hard work that you and others are doing to bring this about.

Thank you.


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@Robert

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I have, using HD-Rec via the gameport on my SBLive. I've been controlling my drum machine with it.

You have to change the preferences:

R-amiga-P, brings up prefs requester.
Select the 'midi' tab.
Change 'in.0' to 'emu10kx.in.o'.
Save that and it should work.


I'll try that when I get home from work today, thank you.


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Poster: Robert Date: 18-Apr-2005 11:00:26

I have, using HD-Rec via the gameport on my SBLive. I've been controlling my drum machine with it.
You have to change the preferences:

R-amiga-P, brings up prefs requester.
Select the 'midi' tab.
Change 'in.0' to 'emu10kx.in.o'.
Save that and it should work.


I tried this and even changed the 'out.o' to emu10kx.out.o' also, but still nothing coming out of the amped speakers connected to my synth. The I/O display showed signal being sent to MIDI but the Casio doesn't seem to receive it. I did get to hear HD-Rec play a MID file for the first time, but that was through the speakers connected to the sound card.


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Well, if it comes out it works. What might be the problem is that your keyboard or synth is not set up so that it receives the (right) sounds on the correct channels. I just tried the following: start Horny OS4 lite, load a demo project (not a mid file), go to the prefs (amiga+e) since it complains that the project was made using different MIDI settings. There select MIDI cluster out.0, go to the 'Change active' pull down menu and set it to emu10kx.out.0. You can remove input in.0 and add emu10kx.in.0 and exit the window. As soon as I press play, it just works.

For the people who still can't get it work as above, download:
http://www.audio-evolution.com/stuff/camdtest.lha
Copy the camd.library to libs: and (after reboot) run sashimippc or if you have the option, connect your A1 using a serial line to another computer and watch the output. Run 'capture' and in the menu select emu10kx.in.0 as input and emu10kx.out.0 as output. You should see emu10kx opening on serial. Play something and you should see the byte counter going up. Press send and it should play all data at once that it captured.


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@DaveAE

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I just tried the following: start Horny OS4 lite, load a demo project (not a mid file), go to the prefs (amiga+e) since it complains that the project was made using different MIDI settings. There select MIDI cluster out.0, go to the 'Change active' pull down menu and set it to emu10kx.out.0. You can remove input in.0 and add emu10kx.in.0 and exit the window. As soon as I press play, it just works.


I tried this. When I selected MIDI cluster out.0, and go to the 'Change active' pull down menu I only see out.0 and in.0. No way to set it to emu10kx.out.0 here. Same thing on the Inputs, the only choice is in.0.


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@Valiant

I have what you have. On HD-Rec I set the preferences to emukx10.in.0 and emukx10.out.0. I made a MIDI track on CH1 and moused in some notes. I played it. The I/O display shows MIDI output when playing, but the synth is not getting it. Playing the keyboard does not show on the I/O display as MIDI input. More reasearch is required, but at least you aren't the only one.


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Camd doesnt work for me either. I tested the camdtest and
used sashimippc but nothing came up. However i dont have
any serialconnection. Just used sashimippc.

I only see out.0 and in.0.
When i last time used the camd.library 40.5 it worked
with HDRec and Horny.
But that was a long time ago. I went back to 40.5 and
it didnt work ?.
Either the last firmware update for uBoot made something wrong
, or my system isnt as it should be anymore. I really dont
know. Maybe something is damaged on my audigy 2
Can any config in uboot make it dont work ?

I hate when i dont know how to solve a problem :')

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Camd doesnt work for me either. I tested the camdtest and
used sashimippc but nothing came up. However i dont have
any serialconnection. Just used sashimippc.

I only see out.0 and in.0.
When i last time used the camd.library 40.5 it worked
with HDRec and Horny.
But that was a long time ago. I went back to 40.5 and
it didnt work ?.
Either the last firmware update for uBoot made something wrong
, or my system isnt as it should be anymore. I really dont
know. Maybe something is damaged on my audigy 2
Can any config in uboot make it dont work ?

I hate when i dont know how to solve a problem :')

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Ok, I won't have time to look into it until tomorrow (evening). It might be that the problem is that I'm using ahi 6.0rc3 and an emu10kx 6 audio driver (with which it communicates). I'll ask Martin Blom if I can release this version so we're all running the same software. Furthermore I will put some more debug info into camd and the driver tomorrow.


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It might be that the problem is that I'm using ahi 6.0rc3 and an emu10kx 6 audio driver (with which it communicates). I'll ask Martin Blom if I can release this version so we're all running the same software.


Seems unlikely as I don't have access to that but it's working here.


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