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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 17:28:26
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| The problem is that i downloaded only the OS4 package _________________ ikir
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 17:31:24
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| @Rogue, I downloaded them, installed them and they run on WinUAE without a problem.. I would guess it is on emulation side... _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 17:31:36
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| @Rogue
You're right. I did not convert E programs at all, since i don't have this language, so effectively, they are 68k and buggy. There's less demo for OS4 than for 68k, but i can't do anything. The better would be to delete the demo directory before unarchiving the OS4 version...
[edit] Ooops ! No, don't do that. Just delete executable files of the demo directory, and it will be fine [/edit]
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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By the way, if anybody have any news regarding an up-to-date FreePascal port on OS4, i may have a breaking news some monthes after the availibility of this language Last edited by Hombre on 07-Feb-2006 at 05:39 PM.
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 17:34:17
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| Sorry about 68k applications crashing under OS4. Try to do a "make" to create executable. I didn't pay attention to the fact that "XMLApplication" was a 68k executable, that's why all standalone XML application crash... which is not the case of Lines for example... again sorry, it's my first multiplatform release... It'll be better next time
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However I think that this is true for any toolkit on any computer system, be it from the programer's point of view, or the user's. If it's to feature rich, it's often rather slow/sluggish. If it's blazing fast and responsive, than it certainly lacks some features. Or it is nice and good looking, but a PITA for the programmer. You simply can't have it all... |
Abvisouly I disagree With Feelin you can have it all : planty of features, eye candy, configuration, nice user experience...
@Rogue: You should send me an AOne, so I can get rid of all the nasty bugs myself _________________ .: wafer's paradise :.
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 17:56:42
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 18:08:30
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Sorry about 68k applications crashing under OS4. Try to do a "make" to create executable. I didn't pay attention to the fact that "XMLApplication" was a 68k executable, that's why all standalone XML application crash... which is not the case of Lines for example... again sorry, it's my first multiplatform release... It'll be better next time |
Heh, I actually found out what the problem is...
feelin.library is missing a 68k jump table. I have recompiled the library with a 68k jump table, and now all demos work :)
(mail me if you are interested in the patch) _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 18:34:14
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| @Rogue
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I can provide a crash log if required, or you can wait until t... oops, almost said too much. |
Hehehehe... Love it
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 18:47:49
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| It does look great, but do you have any users guide type info to help a pretty green programmer out? |
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 19:06:18
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| Just tried it under WinUAE (1.100) and it worked really well. Some of the demos have a tooltype of ed set, which if you change to XMLApplication, throw up an error basically saying Unknown XML class type.
The biggest problem I had was that the three themes provided all have readability issues, whether on the size of the font used, or the colour scheme. I tried the Aqua theme out, but many of the GUI elements had unreadable texts (particularly on the Tabs). It was however very responsive and very configurable. _________________ Test sig (new)
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 19:47:51
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I can provide a crash log if required, or you can wait until t... oops, almost said too much. |
I think i can wait 'till... t...w ? |
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 20:09:09
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| @Rogue: we removed the 68k jump table because we wanted to have plain native code... I need to figure a better way to create packages to avoid this kind of errors...
@_Steve_: there is a reason why some XML files have a "ed" tooltype, this is because they are not standalone XML applications, but XML UIs. For example, the class "&class:line;" is defined in the compiled code "lines.c"... That's why XMLApplication complains about a missing class. _________________ .: wafer's paradise :.
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 20:28:32
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| @Gofromiel
Uhh.. dont say MorphOS backend uses SysV ABI? Because if PPC libraries dont have M68k ABI table they are incompatible with 68k programs. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 20:30:03
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How to use the other themes that are in the resources/themes drawer? _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 20:52:38
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Well done mate i am so glad i sponsored Cubic IDE for you.
Did it help you get this release out a bit quicker? |
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 21:32:25
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| @Fransexy: to use the themes in "/resources/themes" simply copy the CSS file of your choice to "ENV:Feelin/global.css" (or ENVARC: if you want to save it) e.g. type "COPY Feelin:resources/unity.css TO env:feelin/global.css"
Running applications will automatically be updated.
@dazA1: Many thanks for Cubic IDE, I love it !! _________________ .: wafer's paradise :.
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 7-Feb-2006 21:44:31
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| @Gofromiel,
I managed to run the lines demo once, but after that it would not start again. I did the following install.
Installed 68K Removed Demos/68K exe's Installed Demos / Libs of OS4 over top of archive contents. Ran Setup.
I managed to run the lines demo once but after that it would not start again. It looks cool from the glimpse I had + from the setup installer.
Cheers, Bean. _________________ OS4.1 + SAM Flex RIP my A1XE.. that used to have an appetite for batteries!
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 8-Feb-2006 0:28:01
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| @Gofromiel
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there is a reason why some XML files have a "ed" tooltype, this is because they are not standalone XML applications, but XML UIs. For example, the class "&class:line;" is defined in the compiled code "lines.c"... That's why XMLApplication complains about a missing class. |
Ahh fair enough. I was just clicking on the demos to see what it was all about, and didn't pay too much attention to the actual content of the files that had "ed" as the tooltype. _________________ Test sig (new)
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 8-Feb-2006 2:11:59
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e removed the 68k jump table because we wanted to have plain native code... I need to figure a better way to create packages to avoid this kind of errors... |
I don't quite understand...
If you remove the 68k jump table, no 68k program using Feelin can run on OS 4. The 68k jump table is there to allow 68k programs to use it. A PowerPC native program will never make use of it. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 8-Feb-2006 4:24:16
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The thing with MUI is quite sad IMHO for the 68k people who payed for the keyfile. They are stuck at the old 3.8 (68000 optimized ) version from 1997, even it has been further developed over the years.
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What is quite sad about this?
_____________________ Moxee _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: Feelin release 060207 Posted on 8-Feb-2006 7:06:10
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He's certainly misunderstanding. It sure is something we should add, on the other side, Feelin is so new that no application make use of it. If an application use it, we thougth it would be a new PPC app, but it's not obvious, so we'll put that 68k jump table in the library. It's just a way to execute PPC code of the library from 68k applications, after all.
I should have thougt about it by myself Last edited by Hombre on 08-Feb-2006 at 07:07 AM.
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