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For all the Blue trolls out there I guess it won`t be to difficult to get MorphOS running on the
Powervixen WHEN it`s released as if I remember correctly Adam is using Openfirmware.

I don`t know Adam`s feelings about MorphOS but using Openfirmware might just earn him a good few extra sales.

@polka,

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At least in the case of Microsoft, there are no doubts about the existence of the final product.

I don't doubt that after windows vista there will be another virsion of windows, I haven't seen any pictures of it nor a beta version but I still don't doubt it.

I don't doubt that Dell will produce a new PC, I haven't see any pictures of it but I don't doubt it.

Why should I doubt the existance of ACK or Troika because I have not seen any pictures?

Deakmann:
It all depends on which implementation of Open Firmware. If he purchases Genesi
Smart Firmware (about 2-3 USD/board) he will get all the software support the
Pegasos has today for a very good price. If he chooses the free open source
implementation we will be in pretty much the same situation as with U-boot.
All boot images has to be compatible or using Yaboot. And you really don't want
to get stuck with Yaboot. It took me a whole day to get it working on my RS/6000
machine. It's made for Apple hardware and I'm sure it's easy to set up there
but for any other architecture, no thanks!

Jeffshepherd:
Noone doubts that neither Microsoft nor Dell won't release anything after what
they work on today because they are well-established business with a track record.
They have investors and a market to please. Adam really has noone to please
but himself. That's the difference. This is a hobby project for Adam, nothing
he will make a living on. Dell lives on computers and Microsoft lives on Windows.

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ironfist

Adams does have an investor to please - himself, and his market is those people that post on websites like this who want new Amiga hardware to run OS4 on.

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This is a hobby project for Adam, nothing he will make a living on

Considering you have no idea how many of his boards will be sold and how much money he will make from them then you dont know if he will be able to make a living from them.

@Jeffshepherd

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I don't doubt that after windows vista there will be another virsion of windows, I haven't seen any pictures of it nor a beta version but I still don't doubt it. I don't doubt that Dell will produce a new PC, I haven't see any pictures of it but I don't doubt it. Why should I doubt the existance of ACK or Troika because I have not seen any pictures?

Perhaps because the two companies you mention have made zillions of products before.....ACK and Troika have made none!

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BTW, What exactly are you planning on doing to me on IRC anyway? beat me over the head with an asterisk?

OK, I am apparently not getting through. Let me spell it out:

1. Talking live with the actual designer is much more fruitful than arguing in web forums. You can't beat the instant feedback when you are actually talking to the person.

2. Talking live with the actual designer will begin to build a relationship which will begin to build up trust.

3. The pictures of BoXeR and Dragon should have taught us all a valuable lesson. Pictures are proof of nothing as well.

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@ssolie

I've already said, *I* believe Adam, especially after Jens confirmed his order of A1200 connectors. So me talking to him on IRC would be preaching to the choir.

@Jeffsheperd
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Why should I doubt the existance of ACK or Troika because I have not seen any pictures?

Because they don't have any track-record? Because they don't have any references? Because they have so far failed on every possible occasion?

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@polka,

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Because they don't have any track-record? Because they don't have any references? Because they have so far failed on every possible occasion?

Lets see if you can do any better then.

Jeffshepherd:
AFAIK, Polka hasn't take on any assignment like this and thus has no responsability towards us.

@Polka

Sorry but Adam HAS a track-record. He was one of the guys helping getting rid of most
of the A1XE bugs when designing the µA1.
References?! Well he's on the OS4 team. Isn't that enough?

Yes, he has failed on his dates, but so what? It's the end result that matters. No?
Do you doubt Adam is working on these hardwares?

But still anything can happen and nothing might materialize. That's life for ya.

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@Samwel,

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Yes, he has failed on his dates, but so what?

Even the mighty Microsoft, with all of its billions misses deadlines as well don't they and look at their track record.....delay.....after delay.

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Lets see if you can do any better then.

Oh no, not this again. Do you always need to stoop to this level when you run out of arguments?
I have never announced any hardware projects.

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Sorry but Adam HAS a track-record. He was one of the guys helping getting rid of most of the A1XE bugs when designing the µA1.

This is fundamentally different from the experience of designing an own mainboard and having to worry about funding, marketing, distribution and many other things as well.

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Well he's on the OS4 team. Isn't that enough?

No. I was speaking of a track record as a hardware producer.

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Do you doubt Adam is working on these hardwares?

No, but I am a bit unsure if he "get's them done" in the timeframe where that hardware could still attract customers. It's quite telling that the relatively easily designed CPU-modules are released first while the Powervixxen (which is already being designed for nearly two years) is further postponed.

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@Polka

Well the latest timeframe seems to be late August or September for release of the
CPU card. Hope he can deliver in that timeframe.
Nothing promised though, but seems to be the planned release time anyway according
to Number6 from a post on the 30th July.

Wonder when the PV LT will be out, late September maybe

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@Samwel

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Wonder when the PV LT will be out, late September maybe

October more likely as mentioned by Adam, based on (1)arrival of the
connectors from Jens and (2)no unforeseen issues cropping up.

#6

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Oh no, not this again. Do you always need to stoop to this level when you run out of arguments?

On the contrary, it is a very good argument as you keep on complaining about ACK not having hardware ready and missing deadlines.