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Hey Hyperion, get busy and buy one of those things so you can get with the portin'!

Buy ?

Amy's are free for Hyperion porting.

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@ utri007

Do you see any intel-chips?

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ssolie wrote: I plan to buy whatever ships with OS4 running on it. The memory bandwidth alone may make up for any reduced raw CPU crunching power. The large caches will also make a big difference to the feel of the system. If the Amy05 even comes close to the XE you may want to dump the XE anyway because they will likely dive in value given their problems.

Hi ssolie,

My AmigaOne XE isn't going anywhere!

I'm not losing Altivec, while I still have it.

I will get as many NG Amigas as I can raise funds to do so. (Hope that's two more, at least in the next 365 days.)

Hate to be negative, BUT, in this day and age, a geek port of ONLY 8 bits??? Is it really that hard to do anything in designing these things that a 32 bit port couldn't have been done easily? This is where ibm/moto comes in, they want these CPUs sold, and in 2006 we're still strugging to get high bandwith to ram, DDR, SATA/PATA, PCIe/AGPx8, etc. etc. Hate them soooooo much!


On the EIDE connectors.

Does this mean 4 devices could be attached, AND 2 HDs in RAID configuration, AND NOW one more EIDE device through the AMD chip? WOW!



BTW, can't wait, because, AMIGA RULEZ!

Samwel

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Will it be possible to overclock the 800MHz 750GL to 1GHz?

Its been talked about in the irc that a special "helgis" feature was built in for CPU meltdowns.

No overclocking !

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@Insanity

As far as I know Hyperion have a licence for 4.x. There were feature lists somewhere showing what would be included in versions 4.0-4.2 IIRC.
It has since been mentioned about quite a few features that have from moved from 4.1 to 4.0 over time.
Also more recently we have been told that warp 3D will be replaced by Mesa in version 4.1 or 4.2.

HI,

Further information/clarifications

The base design (developer release) has the Silicon Image SIL680 IDE device fitted providing support for 4 IDE devices. The AMD IDE port is not used in this version but will be for the consumer release. RAID support will require OS driver support and is only possible via the SIL680.

SATA will be for higher end models.

You could try and overclock the 750GL, you risk invoking the Helgis Easter Egg! ;)
Seriously, the power converters for the CPU are rated for 1 GHz operation (15 Amps @ 1.5V) but I would not recommend it as the heat increase would risk damaging the PPC!

The geekport is only 8 bits wide as I ran out of pins on the XC9572XL device that implements it! As well as providing the decode logic, it also converts from the 2.5V PPC bus to a 3.3V/5V compatible user bus, for your homebrew devices. Doing this takes many of the 66 I/O pins on the chip.
For ease of use, the geekport is brought out on 0.1" (2.54 mm) pitch pins to allow easy connections.

Bye,

Ian

@Interesting

Yeah I know. I where online when Adam made that comment

Btw my post was a joke..

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I actually do not know what is worse for a motherboard ... Microsoft or Helgis...
If you look at it in perspectif I think Helgis destroyed more...

Typing this I wonder this is personal attacking or joking ... oh I remember... you can not personal attack someone that isn't here

What the Amy concerns ... Ah me like the expansion port... now I am just curious what is going to be made for it... maybe the word "hobbycomputer" does get a meaning again...

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@Atheist

The 8bit port should be enough for most small things that users (or Jens) want to do.
Although 16bit wouldn't have hurt.. For 32bit why no make a small PCI card instead?

The new "south bridge" has one channel IDE (two units). Troika have stated before that
they're using Sil680 on the Amy, which would support 4 more units. I really hope they
have changed Sil680 for a 3114 four channel SATA.

EDIT: Oops already answered by Ian. Thanks for the answer Ian!

Seems we have a possible 6 units (or RAID) for the new board. Great!

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@stedy

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In our design we use 6 audio connectors to provide a full surround sound system: Front, Left side, Right side, Center,

Can you clarify wether this means Amy05 will have component Audio. I'm sure the quote is clear enough but it seems unusual that low-end computer equipment to be able tointerface with hi-end HIFI equipment.

I think Helgis' main problem that he was using overclocking technology from the dark ages. The jumpers on the A1 do not allow for fine adjustments and making big increases a most risky.

you really need to be able to increase the speed in small increments, have good cooling and preferably be able to monitor the CPU temp under load so you can check it is safely within the processors tolerences.

It is also worthy of note that while some chips will be capable of high overclocks ,others from the same batch might not.

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The new "south bridge" has one channel IDE (two units). Troika have stated before that they're using Sil680 on the Amy, which would support 4 more units. I really hope they have changed Sil680 for a 3114 four channel SATA.

It would make more sense to include the SATA chip as default as it could be used until drivers are written for the AMD chip. Then you'll have both SATA+PATA.

Having PATA+the southbridge PATA would be a waste. Use SATA. I doubt it's much more expensive. In the long term it will be better

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@Rob

Clarify what?

It will have (as any computer today) 6 channel analog connectors that can connect directly to
your home theater/HIFI equipment. Or you could use the digital output connector if you want
the home theater/HIFI equipment to decode the sound.

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@ Aminicle

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What the Amy concerns ... Ah me like the expansion port... now I am just curious what is going to be made for it... maybe the word "hobbycomputer" does get a meaning again...

Maybe someone can build an interface for our lego-trains.

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@stedy

So, I'm a bit confused. Does this mean the final consumer version of the board will allow for 6 IDE devices (sil + amd) or just 2 (amd)?

Playing with the Amiga like in the good old days ... I still remember me playing with an infrared adapter. Now it's nothing special... but back in the those days controlling your hifi with from your computer...

I still have to see the first average wintel user doing such things ( I said average ! not that i can't be done )

I really hope the Amy05 board will be the new commodore 64 / Amiga500

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Does this mean the final consumer version of the board will allow for 6 IDE devices (sil + amd) or just 2 (amd)?

I think it's 6 IDE devices in total.

(Although I have to admit that I am getting a little confused with all those Amy-Prometheus-"frozen design"-Version 1.1-Version 1.5-consumer version-prototype-highend-higher end-developer release-Zeus-whatever-specifications)

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The 8bit port should be enough for most small things that users (or Jens) want to do.

8bit-baby from Jens springs to my mind.

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Maybe someone can build an interface for our lego-trains

Or an interface for the new Lego Mindstorm NXT !!!!

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