Yes, very interesting.

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that far we were already .. we wanted to use the parts of it on a legotrain so we could steer it more or less.

However I hope these feature will be well documentated ( not like the PCIriser for the µA1 that will never be i guess... ) and I hope there will be alot of people start heating up their soldering iron to play with a computer that has the right to call itself the new homecomputer.

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However I hope these feature will be well documentated ( not like the PCIriser for the µA1 that will never be i guess... )

But you are aware that this would mean "two more weeks" before getting "Amy '05 final consumer edition"?

@hatschi

Most likely they didn't want to release docs for something that doesn't work.
I'm talking about ricer to multiple slots now. Of course a simple extender will work.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm speaking about µA1-C.

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@stedy The base design (developer release) has the Silicon Image SIL680 IDE device fitted providing support for 4 IDE devices. The AMD IDE port is not used in this version but will be for the consumer release. RAID support will require OS driver support and is only possible via the SIL680.

Ian said (above) that the beta version of the board that only SIL680 works. In the
final consumer version both will work, thus giving it a possible 6 units (or some of
them in RAID). These are all PATA of course.

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@hatschi

You might find that comment very, very funny, however I do not - actually I take offense to that statement. You seem to take the failures of others, lumping it together, and then applying it to Troika before they have failed.

Again, in the strongest possible manner, I take offense to that. Even if you are not interested at all in OS4 and hardware, let others who are, follow the news presented here without your "jokes", please.

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Again, in the strongest possible manner, I take offense to that.

Sorry, but what the heck are you talking about? Any links?

Your tasteless "two more weeks" 'joke'.

Ie, taking the failures of others, and applying them here - on the day of good news. Ever heard of "raining on your parade"? Newsflash, that's what you're doing, right now. You can play innocent all you like, or you can just apologize - it's up to you.

A decent person would atleast admit that it could be seen that way, and that it wasn't your intention.

Or, you can lash out. That's your choice.

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Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Concerning the "tasteless" joke: Feel free to do a forum-search on "two more weeks". You will notice that this term is used by nearly everyone here, OS4-fanatics, "blue trolls", beige trolls, moderators... I admit, it's one of the less creative "jokes"... Another term would be "When it's done." or "Just around the corner." or "Real soon now." Heh, you could write a whole book about those OS4-terms and sayings.
So... this is why I first didn't know what you were referring to.

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You forgot real soon now.

@Guru

Sorry :(

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You forgot real soon now.

Thanks! Original post edited.

But let's keep this OT-stuff out of the hardware thread now

I don't care who has used it in the past. YOU are using it here. In THIS news item. A news item where I, personally, have quite a bit invested.

Thus, I take offense to your tasteless joke, where you take the failures of others, and apply it here. "Raining on your parade"-like. Even though you put a smiley at the end, it doesn't make it "OK", doesn't transform it to a joke.

What you do with that comment, is laugh in the face of those who are trying - they are very few, and they set themselves apart from all others in this community by actually risking something.. their house, home, work... to get hardware out to the "masses" wanting something to run OS4 on.

Next time you want to make a joke, perhaps you should think about that.

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And once again, this thread, like every other thread I read is just more reason
for me to pursue my proposal Here.

btw-I am starting to hear from developers who are very interested in discussing
this with me. (Just so you are all clear on the general mood here, ok?)

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Regardless of how it was meant, I'm honestly just as tired of "two more weeks" jokes as I am of dancing bananas, "on schedule and rocking" jokes, "when it's done" and general negative remarks (of which there are far too many).

I'm sure we can find other way to be funny than to sound like a broken record. The repetition and negativity makes it less fun to be an Amiga user - which is kinda sad when it's pretty fun to use the actual machine. Could we try to focus on that for a bit?

@Samwel

I guess I'm a bit behind on PC soundcard technology, it seemed unusual to me for a motherboard to have such a feature.

@hatschi and others

As Gurumeditation pointed out, there is people who are trying and I know GM is one of them..
Please refrain from jokes from now on in this thread.

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What problems have you had interfacing an x86 SB with a PPC/NB?

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I just finished reading Bill McEwen's 25 responses, and according to him you guys aren't even in the process of discussing an OS4 license yet. Can we get your side of the story?

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5. "As one of the AmigaOne partners, Eyetech sold 3 models of A1 motherboard. With Eyetech no longer selling A1 motherboards, others have tried to fill the void developing their own motherboard solutions only to meet reported problems obtaining a license from Amiga, Inc. Are there any current or in process any licensing agreements for Amiga hardware, if so could you name them or describe the products?" Bill McEwen -- We are in current discussions with three companies, and I believe that two of them have product and offerings that offer a competitive opportunity for the Amiga community. We are striving to get these deals complete, and until they are signed I am not at liberty to discuss them. I will say that Troika is not one of them, contrary to what is rumbling out there. Currently today there is only one company with a contract that can ship AmigaOS 4 with their hardware, and that is Eyetech. It is my goal to have at least one (maybe two) vendors who can supply the needs of the Amiga community and help it grow -- it has been far too long.

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I suspect the answer to that will be silence

It seems difficult to believe that the timing of Amiga Inc's answers to the licensing issue is coincidence: If Troika and/or others intend to try to force Amiga Inc to issue a license, by appearing at shows & generating user demand, then it is obviously in Amiga Inc's interests to dampen those efforts. Anyone see a flaw in that reasoning?

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@ChrisH

Not surprising they don't have a license, since Amiga Inc wants the hardware to be finished before discussing a license, which means that Troika aren't at the right position to begin discussing license yet.

I'm fairly confident that once Troika proves this as a viable hardware solution, Bill ain't going to pass on a bit of money.

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