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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 17-Jan-2004 13:35:27
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| A sad day in astronomy. One of the modern era workhorses will be brought down . I wonder what sort of technology will be employed in the next telescope? _________________
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 17-Jan-2004 14:41:09
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| We need an independent European Space Telescope (and European Positioning System, too) since it is no more possible to relay on NASA-Services... But IIRC both are already planned and coming soon. _________________
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 17-Jan-2004 15:37:36
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| Long ago, maybe 7 years, I read about a telescope made from a rotating disc, about 7 meters accross, which mercury was poured onto, and made a perfect surface, and was cheaper, or more accurate than conventional polished silver mirrors.
I would argue for (in my ignorance as to whether it's a good idea), that we, post haste, put optical and radio telescopes on the moon.
These could be bigger than the biggest telescopes ever built, because of the low gravity on the moon. Then you have the screening of electromagnetic communications from the earth on radio telescopes, and no atmospheric interference for both radio and optical telescopes. And maybe even the Van Allen belts might not interfere. And when the moon is eclipsed by the earth, almost no solar wind (if that might have a part to play in distorting our view, I don't know. Although the field would be small, just the section screened by the earth to the point where the solar wind coverges again. Perhaps 5 or 10 million miles.) And again, more speculation on my part, but maybe it would be better to be on a stable surface, than like the Hubble, constantly orbiting with air resistance.
This is assuming it's built on the far side of the moon.
We might even be able to see so far, that we could read their lincense plates. |
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 17-Jan-2004 16:47:36
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 17-Jan-2004 20:55:12
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| Hmmm, it really wonders me... at one thing there are plans about Moon/Mars-missions, and then they want to give up Hubble... I guess for Astronomy and Cosmology the Hubble telescope would be more important...
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 18-Jan-2004 11:45:48
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| It's a heavy blow for the Astronomer community. I dare not think of the booking pressure which will befall Hubble now that we know its days are counted. It will be nigh impossible to get observing-time, even for us professional astronomers. There are plans for a next generation Space telescope, but I havent heard anything about any fixed plans as of yet - NASA and ESA were talking about joining forces on that one. The next really big thing is DARWIN though. It will have the possibility to image (through interferometry) planets in other solar systems. But that is still some 15 years away. Perhaps plans are sped up now that the Hubble project has a definite deadline. :-/ . SlimJim |
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 18-Jan-2004 11:51:03
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| @Atheist Quote:
This is assuming it's built on the far side of the moon
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Yes there are plans for the moon as well, although no firm decisions as of yet (that I've heard of). DARWIN is planned and funded however, and is to be placed directly in space though. It's a set of satellites separated immense distances apart, thus allowing for massive resolution through intererometry techniques (it's thus not a classical "optical" construct). |
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 18-Jan-2004 21:33:44
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| @MagicSN:
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> at one thing there are plans about Moon/Mars-missions, and then they > want to give up Hubble
But don't you see? They don't want Hubble as a witness when they fake their manned landing on Mars!
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 19-Jan-2004 5:47:44
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 19-Jan-2004 7:32:38
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| Curiously, I had just heard a radio show on Friday where two astronomers predicted that the establishing of a moon base would in fact extend Hubble's life, as it would be very convenient to stop there along the way.
They also said however that the same moon base would render Hubble obsolete, since Hubble has to deal with certain sorts of interference from earth, that a moon base telescope would not have to deal with.
Here's hoping... _________________ I've decided to follow an awful lot of people I respect and leave AmigaWorld. If for some reason you want to talk to me, it shouldn't take much effort to find me.
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 19-Jan-2004 12:00:28
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Curiously, I had just heard a radio show on Friday where two astronomers predicted that the establishing of a moon base would in fact extend Hubble's life, as it would be very convenient to stop there along the way. |
No offense, but that sounds very weird. Why would you use HST as a temporary platform towards the moon!? I think you must really mean the international space station (ISS)? . SlimJim |
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 19-Jan-2004 14:29:41
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But don't you see? They don't want Hubble as a witness when they fake their manned landing on Mars! |
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Re: Bye Bye Hubble Posted on 22-Jan-2004 3:39:11
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| Hopefully, With Bush's new space initiative there will be a revival in the X-33 project or new research into replacing the shuttle fleet. Not to mention replacing Hubble, NASA already has a plan. They just need funding. _________________
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