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Software News   Software News : TurboText 2.0 released as freeware
   posted by Mobileconnect on 3-Apr-2004 9:18:49 (3131 reads)
It is with great pleasure that, in honour of AmiGBG 2004, Tim Ocock announces that Martin Taillefer has kindly permitted his original TurboText 2.0 text editor to be released as freeware.


TurboText is one of the Amiga's best text editors, but has not been available for sale for around 10 years. It's features include:

-Very fast loading and scrolling
-Style Guide compliant
-Highly customisable
-Full ARexx command set with integration with major applications

TurboText will shortly be available from Aminet, but in the meantime you can download it from:

here!
    

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Re: TurboText 2.0 released as freeware
Posted on 3-Apr-2004 20:02:12
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Something wrong with that URL... Try this

http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk/amiga/turbotext/


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Re: TurboText 2.0 released as freeware
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This is so cool.

Now I wonder of Martin with release the source so it can be updated for PPC and newer API's.

Thanks Martin and Mobileconnect!

 
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Re: TurboText 2.0 released as freeware
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I suspect that TurboText's speed may be due mostly to large amounts of 68K assembler, which would make a PPC port trickier than it needs to be...

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Actually it's all Modula 2, speed is down to using things like asyncio (the link version)


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Modula 2, huh? I wonder if this would help the port along

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Quote:
Poster: Mobileconnect Date: 3-Apr-2004 16:02:12

Something wrong with that URL... Try this


Yeah, it was missing the / in front of the closing "url" so I changed it to correctly display the link. I fixed yours too, btw.

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Actually I'd like to see Martin find a way to port M2Sprint to PPC.
He wrote all the operating system definition files (includes etc)
and the integrated text editor. The editor seems like an early
version of TurboText. M2Sprint produces very compact and fast code.
The last update was in 1989 but it still works great.


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The main TurboText binary file appears to be missing.


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It's not, you need to run the Installer


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I'd like to bring an up-to-date Modula-2 to AOS 4. I have an unreleased ISO (almost) standard M2 that I developed and am running on 3.9 under winUAE. It could be a good base for the development of a mostly M2 program like TurboText, though I have not seen the sources of TurboText.

I'd be a lot more motivated to get it into release shape when AOS 4 Beta is available.

Do you think there would be any interest in M2 among AOS 4 users?

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Quote:
Do you think there would be any interest in M2 among AOS 4 users?


I'm sure there are some interested in M2 for OS4, I just don't know how many. This community has such a wide variety of tastes, and I know a number of programmers that have an equally wide spectrum in their programming interests. Maybe that would make a good poll.

BTW, welcome to Amigaworld.net.

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Quote > It's not, you need to run the Installer


I tried to install to a disk & got a nearly empty disk & no program.
I got the same results installing to a new partition. If I tell it to
update my v1.03 install, nothing gets changed.

Has anyone had any success installing this on OS3.9?
The docs say 2.04, so maybe it fails with 3.1 ROMs.
I'm happy with 1.03, so upgrading is no big deal.


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Odd. It definitely works and installs on OS3.9.

Removing the existing Turbotext: assign before installing.

Or, find the main app in the Disk/Data/TTX


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BTW, welcome to Amigaworld.net.


Thanks for the welcome words!

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The installer is not working right. It sets the assign, but the files
are not installed. I got it to work by hand copying the files over.
There is another person that left a message on Amiga.org, that was having the same problem. You may want to LHA a working install before uploading to
Aminet with the assign requirement & how to get TTX to auto run in the
background.


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I would certainly be interrested. C is too cryptic for me so
Modula II is the only language I use. I don't do much programming
any more but I would love a native OS4 Modula II compiler. The
time consuming part may be converting the OS4 includes. My current
M2 compiler has a facility for adding library calls so I've been
able to keep it somewhat updated over the years. There is a PROCEDURE
called INLINE which looks like:

------------------------------------------------------------
PROCEDURE LockAmigaGuideBase( handle : ADDRESS ) : LONGINT ;
INLINE(AmigaGuideBase,-36,8);
------------------------------------------------------------

All the OS library source definitions were included in the form
shown above and can be easily updated and recompiled.

Because of it's extensive ARexx commands, Turbotext integrates
easily into a Modula II system. I load the source, hit a function
key to compile it, hit another function key to step through the
syntax errors, and once properly compiled, hit another function
key to link the program. It's almost as easy as writing a Basic
program or ARexx script.

The key to all that though is the fact that the compiler writes
a small error file to the T: directory. It contains an error number,
line number and column number for each error. It's just a matter
of reading that file with an ARexx script and using the TurboText
ARexx port to move the cursor to each error and display error text
in the window dragbar.

I use GCC to compile several OpenSource programs and I think it's
far to complicated for the small utilities I like to write.

I say - Go For It!


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Quote:
Because of it's extensive ARexx commands, Turbotext integrates
easily into a Modula II system. I load the source, hit a function
key to compile it, hit another function key to step through the
syntax errors, and once properly compiled, hit another function
key to link the program. It's almost as easy as writing a Basic
program or ARexx script.


Yes, TurboText makes the integration work well. I've gone a little
farther and started a simple IDE that generates dependencies and will
properly recompile the minimum set of DEF or MOD files that need to be
rebuilt based on the time stamp of changed files. It works ok.

The are doubts in my mind about whether people would put up with
it in its currently raw state, however, and be willing to help with moving it into
the status of a professional IDE. (Though I think it is much more a help than an hindrance
evey so).

eg, right now, the IDE cannot tell automatically if you edit one of the project
files, you have to specifically ask it to "refresh" in order to get a true update
of the needed compiles (though it does ask TT to save-if-changed the file before compiling).
I want to use the OS file notification feature here, but
just have not had the time to try it out.

eg, I took the compiler away from date-based compile keys in the obj and sym files,
and am using a content based checksum that ignores comments and white space.
But, haven't gotten around to making changes in the IDE, which still goes only by
file date. It irks me to add only comments to a DEF file and have the IDE think that
everything that uses it needs re-compile.

Also, of course, there are bugs. I've tried to use spawned processes for the
IDE configuration windows and also for compiling/linking in order to keep it very
responsive. Not easy - the IDE currently does a (relatively graceful) crash about
every 50 compiles or so, requiring a restart and a refresh (not too bad on a fast
WinUAE system). Would you be willing to use it in this state, and maybe identify
what the bug is? (must! be a port leak, but I can't find it).

At any rate, since I've worked all day on the Income Tax return, my wife has let
me out of garden work this afternoon, so I guess I can go spend a couple of hours
working on those problems instead of complaining about them.

Tom

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