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Software News   Software News : OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
   posted by SOFISTISOFTWARE on 18-Jun-2004 21:38:41 (4186 reads)
On Stephan Rupprecht home page there are two utilities: PNGTool and SGrab in native PPC code for OS4 !
    

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tomazkid 
Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 18-Jun-2004 22:53:51
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Nice to see the first apps coming!


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 18-Jun-2004 23:07:21
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These apps aren't linked from the '/downloads' page index.

If you go to the parent page you can get them there.

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 19-Jun-2004 0:35:39
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Thanks alot mr. Rupprecht! :D

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 19-Jun-2004 2:56:21
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Nice!

I have just done a quick grab of a Workbench screen & I'd like to say there's a very nice improvement in the speed I grabbed a full screen with the 68k version &... Put it this way, I thought OS4 had locked up

I've never used PNGTool, I don't think I had a reason to use it, however, thanks for porting & uploading these.

Have they been added to OS4Depot & AmigaShare?

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
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@FuZion

Quote:
I grabbed a full screen with the 68k version &... Put it this way, I thought OS4 had locked up


Me too. But I grabbed a lot! It worked just fine and now I am getting the OS4 version. Yeah!

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
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Great!

SGrab 68k was quite slow indeed. PPC version is a welcome addendum. Thanks!
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ikir 
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Cooool!! Thanks for these PPC gifts

STephan add them to AmigaShare and OS4 depot


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
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A question!

I haven't got an A1 yet, but I'll like to learn something about it, and what to expect with program-sizes, as I'm a programmer.

When I look in the readme file for PNGTool, I see this:

Original  Packed Ratio    Date     Time    Name
-------- ------- ----- --------- --------  -------------
   44826   15766 64.8% 15-Jun-04 19:47:32 +asyncio.library.os4
   86380   47126 45.4% 29-Oct-02 21:46:18 +pngtool
    4111    2092 49.1% 15-Jun-04 19:49:36 +PNGTool.doc
  192932   80968 58.0% 15-Jun-04 19:46:36 +pngtool.os4
  122564   54287 55.7% 29-Oct-02 21:47:06 +pngtoolPPC
    5568    2638 52.6% 17-May-02 16:26:42 +PNGTool_español.doc


I guess,
pngtool is the 68k version,
pngtoolPPC is the PPC version for old Amigas and
pngtool.os4 plus asyncio.library.os4 is for A1's!?

I also know, that PPC versions normally are larger than 68k versions, but is this a typical example? Is it typical, that OS4 versions of programs are 2-3 times the size of 68k versions?

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 19-Jun-2004 11:55:02
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Added to OS4Depot :) (With permission)

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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 19-Jun-2004 11:59:29
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@Geomol
In general, yes. It depends what the code actually does deep down in the hardware. For instance, if the 68k version didn't call any complex instructions (just stuck to things like ADD) then the PPC version would be similar in size.


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
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Quote:

44826   15766 64.8% 15-Jun-04 19:47:32 +asyncio.library.os4


Bloat

Ram Disk:> list MOSSYS:Libs/asyncio.library
Directory "MOSSYS:Libs" on Lauantai 19-Kes-04
asyncio.library 9136 ----rwed 08-Elo-03 23:56:30

 
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@ Itix

The version in the archive is not stripped, it contains debug symbols.


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 19-Jun-2004 13:36:25
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Guessed that, but it looks still bit large. Typically PPC binary is twice as large compared to 68k binary (depends on optimizations, compiler etc. of course).

 
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@ Itix

It's down to 11kb when stripped. Don't know which compiler or settings
were used to produce it.


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
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11kB is not bad then. I've been wondering relatively large binaries on OS4, even stripped. I've seen references to clib2, what is it, and c.library?

 
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That's the C library written by Olaf Barthel, it's known to produce large and slow binaries;) Olaf fixed it meanwhile so that the binaries produced run much faster than before.


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Re: OS4 native of PNGTool and SGrab
Posted on 20-Jun-2004 11:25:35
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@origin

Clicked the OS4 Depot banner ad in dillo; amigaworld.net is using bad HTML for redirects (meta refresh?)...

Here's the "page bugs" output from dillo itself:

http://amigaworld.net/banners.php?op=click&bid=9
Quote:
HTML warning: line 173, unexpected closing tag:

. -- expected
HTML warning: line 272, unexpected closing tag: . -- expected

HTML warning: line 287, HEAD element must go before the BODY section
HTML warning: line 287, META elements must be inside the HEAD section
HTML warning: line 287, unexpected closing tag: . -- expected



Thought you might like to know, being a moderator, and perhaps having paid for the ad (or maybe not)..

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Posted on 20-Jun-2004 20:14:59
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This is Soooooooooooooo Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


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