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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 16:38:09
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| I would like an additional wireless terminal or laptop made with the Micro to connect with my AmigaOne SE.  _________________ A1G3-SE + OS4.1 u1 iso (x2)
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 16:41:58
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 16:45:49
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| Huhuhu, diskless terminals...
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 17:22:37
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| @mbilla This seemed like pretty big news to me. Not sure why nobody else bothered to post it considering it is directly related to the Micro-A1 series, DMA concerns, etc.
From the press release it appears Linux runs just fine on these new designs despite being based on the Atricia S as well. Hopefully we can finally find out if the Atricia's unique features hold up in real world tests or not. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 17:24:56
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| @ mbilla
I believe OS4 users will especially find Alan Redhouse's comment interesting within your thread.
Eyetech wrote:
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The event was in the Great Hall of the People (equivalent to the White House) and, yes, I was there and gave a presentation, which included a live demonstration of OS4 - running entirely from flash card - by Adam Kowalczyk. The majority of people in the large audience were from the Chinese Ministry of Information Industries.
There are some very big opportunities in China.
Alan
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 17:38:57
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| This surely has to be great news if for nothing else than the mass production of the mA1. Nice to see that Eyetech attended and had a version of OS4 to show, but I don't think the players there will be too interested in that until it's much more mature & has office software. |
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 17:43:09
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| Can AmigaOS4 deal with Asian characters? |
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 18:02:20
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| @angrybrit
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Can AmigaOS4 deal with Asian characters? |
Sure, no problem. They are very nice people. Ok, some characters or not that nice but mostly they are very friendly.
Coder p.s. Unless you mean characters on a keyboard? _________________ Can't get enough of me? The Bucket Diary Blog The Bucket Diary Twitter Account
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 19:07:18
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| Great news because...
1. If the Smart terminal takes off with Linux it will probably lower the cost of MicroA1's (if Eyetech can buy part of the production run or will be the company behind the Smart Terminal distribution?).
2. If it takes off the lower price of the MicroA1 will lead to a bigger Amiga market in Europe and USA. And who knows how many will use OS4 instead of Linux in China, if it is possible on the Smart terminal (Uboot versions).
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 19:08:30
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| @Esquilax
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but I don't think the players there will be too interested in that until it's much more mature & has office software. |
If I may be so bold: havers!
If you're booting from compact flash, it's not the desktop but the embedded market you're aiming at, and that means custom apps. So no office software isn't a problem. Oo a double negative. Naughty.
At least everyone knows why Alan was never available to reply to email and thing: he was buzzing between the UK, France and China since the beginning of the year. Poor soul, he's been trying really hard to get a life as well. Maybe next year. |
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 19:33:08
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| Problem is that cheaper alternatives exist in the thin client market, also working with Linux, which they seem to be so fond of in China. Offcourse I don't know what price the Smart Terminal could end at with a big production run, very low I hope.
Good to hear Alan is busy  _________________
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 19:40:29
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| Cheaper? But then you calculate that on the price we pay for each board.. If a big player stepped up that wanted to make an embedded application with this board, they wouldn't order 10 units.. they'd order thousands, and then.. we're talking a massive reduction in price / board. _________________ It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena." Theodore Roosevelt, speech in Paris, 1910
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 19:58:17
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1. If the Smart terminal takes off with Linux it will probably lower the cost of MicroA1's (if Eyetech can buy part of the production run or will be the company behind the Smart Terminal distribution?). |
Or (evil thought): increase the profit for E. + Co. without big change in the end user price. Price reduction of A1 components (cpu and all those other bought parts which make up the board) since when it was first out, left A1 end user price pretty unimpressed, it seems to me, ...
While what you got for a certain amount of money in the PC/Apple market at the time A1 was first released and what you get now for the same amount of money is a biiiig difference. |
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:17:34
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| @Georg
How big a percentage of the cost of a A1 motherboard is the parts and how much is the production? My guess is that the production is a lot with these current low production runs, also parts will be cheaper if bought in (ten)thousands instead of hundreds. Whether that will benefit us is another matter but it will strengthen Eyetech and help them release future systems if this all works out. _________________
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:27:23
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Or (evil thought): increase the profit for E. + Co. |
I don't think the A1 price will profit much form big sales of Teron/A1 computers.
Look at Genesi and their Pegs, when they got in touch with the big boys prices for the PEGS went up! _________________ A computerworld without MS products and Windows! Connect your Amigas ... ...The Red ONE-A1XE G4 - A3000T- A3000 - A4000 - A2500- A1000 - A600 - CDTV - CD32... and your PDAs and laptops ... Psion 5mx Pro - Psion NetBook - Apple iPhone - MacBook Pro
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:37:40
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| Of course the prices will go up and supply will go DOWN for the Amiga market as the parts will all be diverted to Linux.
Bad, bad news IMO.
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:37:53
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| Finally a good possibility for MAI&Eyetech to go in a right way, and OS4 will follow them 
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:39:57
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 20:55:16
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| Where is Eyetech mentioned? MAI could go alone on this and then we'd be SOL.
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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China Posted on 5-Oct-2004 21:01:51
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| @Mbilla & Oxygonet
To the best of my knowledge both G4 & G3 are easily available atm. especially if you buy more than a 1000 at a time.
Gensi and the Pegasos are not a good example IMHO. I don't know if prices went up (after the PEG2 was released?) but they did sell at a very low price and might have had an easier time producing low volumes of the Peg at the DCE facilities. Didn't pay their employees aswell might have helped to keep the price down :(
Anyway cant see that this can be bad for us in anyway, worst case it wont affect us at all (even worse, eyetech will fail in the Chinese market and...ooh that won't happen!). _________________
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