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News   News : Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China
   posted by ssolie on 5-Oct-2004 15:35:13 (6438 reads)
MAI LOGIC UNveiled the SMART TERMINAL at the Modern Computing Technology and Product Demonstration Forum IN CHINA

FREMONT, CA. Sep 15, 2004. Mai Logic Incorporated, a fabless IC and system design house specializing in designing and marketing innovative chipset and platform solutions for use in PowerPC microprocessor based applications, announced the Smart Terminal architecture at the Modern Computing Technology and Product Demonstration Forum on September 8, 2004, in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.



Hosted and organized by Chinese E-Commerce Association, Chinese Aviation Technology Group, and Beijing-based ARC.9 Computing Co. Ltd., the main purpose of this forum is to introduce and promote the Smart Terminal having general desktop functions to accelerate adoption of Linux on PowerPC solutions for implementations in client devices, network computers (NC), and office automation (OS) systems for governmental, educational, financial, industrial, and commercial organizations in China.

The system architecture of the Smart Terminal is based on the Teron Mini platform, a Mini-ITX form factor (170mm X 170mm) mainboard which incorporates Mai Logic's Articia S chipset and IBM's latest PowerPC 750FX/GX microprocessor. Running on the open-sourced Linux OS, the "Ready for IBM Technology" certified Teron Mini makes the Smart Terminal a robust and reliable computer. Thanks to its compact size, low power consumption, low cost, and overall versatility, the Smart Terminal is ideally suited for the rigorous demands large mission-critical users. Multiple Smart Terminals can access applications at the server while running local Linux desktop applications simultaneously by utilizing a hierarchical, distributed architecture which links hundreds of systems together into one seamless network that reduces costs, accommodates consolidations, boosts security, and increase productivity. "The small size and performance power of the Smart Terminal provide distinct advantages to both customers and system integrators," said Jason, Hou, Chief Executive Officer of Mai Logic.

With technical assistance and support provided by IBM, California-based Mai Logic Incorporated and its affiliate, Inguard Incorporated, there were 300 hundreds of high-performance and diskless smart terminals setup in this event for demonstrating video broadcasting, video streaming, 3D game application, Linux Office Suite application, and RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) client application. The on-site demonstration enabled all attendees to use new high-performance/low-power PowerPC Linux based Smart Terminals and experience a verity of applications it can offer.

In addition, IBM and Xi'an Jiaotong University announced a jointly established Linux research lab in the forum. Led by Inguard, IBM and China's Ministry of Education, this is the first Linux research lab located on the campus of a higher educational institute in China. As a part of China's 863 program (National High Technology Research and Development Program of China), this lab aims at providing a Linux educational platform toward the western China.

Estimated more than 300 people attended this event, including high-profile government officials from Ministry of Information Industry, scholars and experts from Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, managers of prospective and potential customers in electricity, petrochemical, financial, and telecommunication industries, executives of ARC.9, IBM, Mai Logic, and Inguard, as well as journalists from major media such as SINA, the largest Internet News Agency in China and Xinhua, the largest news agency in China.

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Re: Mai Logic Unveiled Smart Terminal in China
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I would like an additional wireless terminal or laptop
made with the Micro to connect with my AmigaOne SE.


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I had posted the link to that press-release in this tread (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7066&forum=17) already (look for mai teron etc.)


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Huhuhu, diskless terminals...

nooooo, don't hurt me, nooooo!

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@mbilla
This seemed like pretty big news to me. Not sure why nobody else bothered to post it considering it is directly related to the Micro-A1 series, DMA concerns, etc.

From the press release it appears Linux runs just fine on these new designs despite being based on the Atricia S as well. Hopefully we can finally find out if the Atricia's unique features hold up in real world tests or not.


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@ mbilla

I believe OS4 users will especially find Alan Redhouse's comment interesting within your thread.

Eyetech wrote:

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The event was in the Great Hall of the People (equivalent to the White House) and, yes, I was there and gave a presentation, which included a live demonstration of OS4 - running entirely from flash card - by Adam Kowalczyk. The majority of people in the large audience were from the Chinese Ministry of Information Industries.

There are some very big opportunities in China.

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This surely has to be great news if for nothing else than the mass production of the mA1. Nice to see that Eyetech attended and had a version of OS4 to show, but I don't think the players there will be too interested in that until it's much more mature & has office software.

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Can AmigaOS4 deal with Asian characters?

 
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@angrybrit

Quote:
Can AmigaOS4 deal with Asian characters?


Sure, no problem. They are very nice people. Ok, some characters or not that nice but mostly they are very friendly.

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p.s. Unless you mean characters on a keyboard?


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Great news because...

1. If the Smart terminal takes off with Linux it will probably lower the cost of MicroA1's (if Eyetech can buy part of the production run or will be the company behind the Smart Terminal distribution?).

2. If it takes off the lower price of the MicroA1 will lead to a bigger Amiga market in Europe and USA. And who knows how many will use OS4 instead of Linux in China, if it is possible on the Smart terminal (Uboot versions).

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@Esquilax

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but I don't think the players there will be too interested in that until it's much more mature & has office software.


If I may be so bold: havers!

If you're booting from compact flash, it's not the desktop but the embedded market you're aiming at, and that means custom apps. So no office software isn't a problem. Oo a double negative. Naughty.


At least everyone knows why Alan was never available to reply to email and thing: he was buzzing between the UK, France and China since the beginning of the year. Poor soul, he's been trying really hard to get a life as well. Maybe next year.

 
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Problem is that cheaper alternatives exist in the thin client market, also working with Linux, which they seem to be so fond of in China.
Offcourse I don't know what price the Smart Terminal could end at with a big production run, very low I hope.

Good to hear Alan is busy


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Cheaper? But then you calculate that on the price we pay for each board.. If a big player stepped up that wanted to make an embedded application with this board, they wouldn't order 10 units.. they'd order thousands, and then.. we're talking a massive reduction in price / board.


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Quote:
1. If the Smart terminal takes off with Linux it will probably lower the cost of MicroA1's (if Eyetech can buy part of the production run or will be the company behind the Smart Terminal distribution?).


Or (evil thought): increase the profit for E. + Co. without big change in the end user price. Price reduction of A1 components (cpu and all those other bought parts which make up the board) since when it was first out, left A1 end user price pretty unimpressed, it seems to me, ...

While what you got for a certain amount of money in the PC/Apple market at the time A1 was first released and what you get now for the same amount of money is a biiiig difference.

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@Georg

How big a percentage of the cost of a A1 motherboard is the parts and how much is the production? My guess is that the production is a lot with these current low production runs, also parts will be cheaper if bought in (ten)thousands instead of hundreds.
Whether that will benefit us is another matter but it will strengthen Eyetech and help them release future systems if this all works out.


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Or (evil thought): increase the profit for E. + Co.


I don't think the A1 price will profit much form big sales of Teron/A1 computers.

Look at Genesi and their Pegs, when they got in touch with the big boys prices for the PEGS went up!


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Of course the prices will go up and supply will go DOWN for the Amiga market as the parts will all be diverted to Linux.

Bad, bad news IMO.

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Finally a good possibility for MAI&Eyetech to go in a right way, and OS4 will follow them


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What do my avatar happens?

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Where is Eyetech mentioned? MAI could go alone on this and then we'd be SOL.

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@Mbilla & Oxygonet

To the best of my knowledge both G4 & G3 are easily available atm. especially if you buy more than a 1000 at a time.

Gensi and the Pegasos are not a good example IMHO. I don't know if prices went up (after the PEG2 was released?) but they did sell at a very low price and might have had an easier time producing low volumes of the Peg at the DCE facilities. Didn't pay their employees aswell might have helped to keep the price down :(

Anyway cant see that this can be bad for us in anyway, worst case it wont affect us at all (even worse, eyetech will fail in the Chinese market and...ooh that won't happen!).


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