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Announcement   Announcement : AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
   posted by nicholas on 21-Jan-2005 0:40:33 (8658 reads)
Neil C. has committed a first release of the AROS native TCP/IP stack to the CVS.

See aros-exec.org for more info.


Listed as bounty #3 at the Team Aros home page, the $600 worth bounty has the following objectives:

1. IP4
2. TCP
3. UDP
4. ICMP
5. bsdsocket.library API

Hopefully we'll see this added to a public AROS distribution very soon.
    

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MikeB 
Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
Posted on 21-Jan-2005 8:58:45
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Good luck AROS team!

Wouldn't a Pegaos-port bounty be a good idea? Many people within the MOS community have stated that they would pay for MOS updates, so maybe they would like to invest in AROS too? IMO it would also be great if most ex-MOS-only developers would want to contribute to AROS (and AmigaOS4).

A port could mean that Pegasos users would finally get a native TCP/IP stack for an Amiga-like OS some day!

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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
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oh YES!

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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
Posted on 21-Jan-2005 9:13:28
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Congratulations!

I must admit, I've not used AROS in ages - I keep meaning to dust off one of the old Linux boxen and install the latest version. Great stuff guys!


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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
Posted on 21-Jan-2005 14:53:40
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Nice
but for real wat is Aros i understand that is some tyoe of "Amiga os 3x" type of os but some info


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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
Posted on 21-Jan-2005 18:10:35
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@Troll,

I'm a bit vague on the subject myself, but from what I remember it is a (reversed engineered?) port of AOS3.1 for x86 hardware. It was started some years back as a way to make the OS survive on modern hardware when everything else seemed to be going tits up! I "think" the only programs that will run are specially compiled for x86. I'm unclear if there is any emulation for running original Amiga programs.

It sits on Windows or Linux but I think it can also run without them as how a "true" OS should be.

Whilst fascinating, and I really appreciate the efforts, but with the more modern OS4 on something quick'ish (PPC), I'm sceptical of the point really.


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MikeB

err.. please refrain from making posts about things you know nothing about.

MorphOS has had a Native PPC AmiTcp stack for about 6+ months. It was not released due to the fact it was in a beta state. It would have been released with the infamous "1.5" release which has been Delayed.

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Quote:
I'm unclear if there is any emulation for running original Amiga programs.

There is no built in emulation afaik, but there is supposed to be a UAE port for it, which should work great.

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TCP/IP stack is good news indeed! I might even find it quite useful once it has decent network capabilities and a browser, irc client and similar.

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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
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@Realize

So what if there's a native TCP/IP stack for MOS, the users don't have it and can't get it, therefore MikeB's post is valid enough, especially with the current state of MOS.

Can't see what your problem is with his post, all he wishes is that the MOS camp can somehow benefit from the work done on AROS.


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MikeB 
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@ realize

Maybe you should read before you reply, as you clearly must have misread something.

Also if you read MorphZone.org more carefully you can see that many users have been eagerly waiting for a native TCP/IP stack for years. You often claim that things are going strong, etc, but IMO if you look at the situation a bit less biased you would see the reality surrounding MOS today.

IMO, I don't need to have 'elite' information on or access to such components to be able to make a general supportive comment towards Pegasos users.

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Quote:
I'm a bit vague on the subject myself, but from what I remember it is a (reversed engineered?) port of AOS3.1 for x86 hardware. It was started some years back as a way to make the OS survive on modern hardware when everything else seemed to be going tits up! I "think" the only programs that will run are specially compiled for x86


You're all wrong

AROS is meant to be portable on any platform, including PPC and classic amigas. It is meant to be binary compatible with 68k amiga applications when running on 68k and source compatible when running on another CPU. In fact, some early versions were running as libraries replacement for amigaos 3.x. on classic amigas.

It is not a port but a rewrite. There is no need for reverse engineering as most API is public. ATM only the x86 version is running but (hosted) ppc port is on the way. Native ppc port should follow.

Last edited by Lanza on 21-Jan-2005 at 10:14 PM.
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So it's "just" AmiTCP. That was my first reaction. But maybe that's temporary, and more modern functionality is coming along?


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Anonymous 
Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
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@realize

You're kidding, right?

The native TCP stack for MorphOS was NEVER released. Thus, it is NOT available!

 
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Quote:
There is no built in emulation afaik, but there is supposed to be a UAE port for it, which should work great.


AROS has E-UAE 0.8.27 just like AOS4 and MorphOS.


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@Thematic

You can't have been waiting for this for very long, or you wouldn't have had that reaction....

There is a 2nd TCP/IP stack in development, which is a port of lwIP. I'm not sure of the relative merits of this stack. Maybe it's what you're looking for?

I'm really chuffed about this. There's a screenshot on the aros-exec.org thread showing AROS pinging localhost. It's a small thing but it made me smile.

Congratulations to Neil C and the AROS team. This could really kickstart things.

Chris


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Re: AROS gets native TCP/IP stack
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realize/magnetic:

if there is a morphos native stack then why arent there anyone using it?

exactly because it was only for a few people and it wasnt finsihed so mikeB had right and you just had to say something as he said "morphos" .

anyway lets see if that tcp/ip stack gets released to the public like ambient has (sources) ..


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When ready there will be a new release of AROS-Max which will include some stuff to try out TCP/IP on (AMosaic and some other bits). This, along with EUAE, should mean that AROS sees a positive future with more development - even without these it was already the best thing you could do with a PC

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I downloaded the a bootable CD image of the AROS system from the AROS-Max website this afternoon, booted from it on my PC, and was pleasantly surprised to see the progress they have made :)

Definetly very impressive...and since I am Amiga-less at the moment...it gave me that 'its nice to be back' feeling for the few minutes it was running :) Unfortunately I had to reboot into Windows again a few moments later...at which point I contemplated the merits of sticking my head into a gas oven while I waited for the damn OS to boot ;)

Well done AROS team :)

john.

incidentally considering I am without Amiga at the moment, could I start developing for the AROS system, and then port my code over to OS 4 at a later date...or would that be just as difficult as porting an application from Windows or Linux?

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Thanks Aros team


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