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5000 to zbyt optymistyczny scenariusz. 1500 - 2000 to bardziej realne.

Pozdrawiam.

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x86 is a black hole for all those who've attempted to enter the realm of windows with an alternative.

There are small alternative OSes vendors in X86 market e.g. SkyOS.

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I take it a x86 mobo maker would be slitting their throat producing such a low run board with no upgrades, for as long as it takes to get OS4 going, which has been a few years so far

Depends on X86 market segment e.g. refer to Geode GX markets.

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Selecting the PPC reduces transition costs and time to market

I disagree with this statement i.e. MAI's core logic is more expensive than lowest Intel 8x0 series (for both NB and SB) and SIS chipsets. The motherboard fabrication manufactures is not much different to X86 ones e.g. Asian in origin. Foxconn is example i.e. Leadtek and Apple's Mini-Mac.

Example;
1. i865PE integrated graphics chipsets from US $25 as of December 2004.
2. MAI (order volume of 10,000 units), the unit price of Articia S chipset is US$25. This is just NB.
3. SiS around Q1 2001 time period.
__SIS735, with a unit price of $27 in quantities of 10,000. Total price for NB and SB packaged price. The specifications kills MAI's current chipset e.g. EV6 bus, AGP4X, DDR, Dual LAN (100MBit and 10Mbit). NB and SB link back bone of 1.2GB/s via SIS’s multi-threaded I/O Link.
__ SiS315, (the integrated graphic chipset) with a unit price of $30 in quantities of 10,000.

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Having a stagnant hardware platform allows OS4 to get done.

With the X86 platforms, just treat the new chipsets as old the one i.e. install Windows XP pre-SP1 (2001 era) on nForce4 (2005 era) as an example. Token “Tick box” support is better than none at all.

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I total disagree with that "article".
Everyone has his own perspectives and requirements.
There are so many things that I find incorrect that I don't know where to begin!
Old school minds...

@liquidbit

Spell 'em out then.

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Some of my topics:
"The fact they run Linux is a bonus".
*nix(Linux) is hardware platform independent, *nix(Linux) can almost run in any device with a processor & memmory, it is designed so.I don't see it as bonus but a way of a choice!
Nobody push you to run Windowz on your PC. They are plenty of OS'es.

"If OS4 ran on commodity pc hardware, two issues would arise: 1 Large scale piracy, resulting in lost revenue to OS4's publisher. Problematic installs, using a questionable copy of OS4, in turn lead to a poor reputation for OS4 amongst the general computing community. 2 Compatibility issues within the hardware combination, for which OS4 takes the blame. This would hinder sales for new Amiga software, and damage the Amiga brand name."
The first "bullet" shoots in the empty air... the OS4's publisher needs to make other software except the OS if they want to save their revenue's! Today speaking with internet nothing is secure. Look the Music industry. Companies need to change their ways of getting revenues.
That means that the OS needs to be free! otherwise nobody would use it.
Second bullet, Compatibility problems??? What is the difference between a PC & a Mac these days?
They using the same protocols API's..the same hardware except the processor.
Where can you find Compatibility issues? IDE/Memmory/AGP/PCI/Network???
The issue here is pure marketing politics.

The article is talking about "The OS and hardware can be optimized for performance."
Make it work first and then we talking about optimized performance!
If the hardware today is optimized to work fully on W*ndows I don't see so much of a future choice. The good old days are passed.

Yet another argument that misses the point entirely.

This isn't about the technical reasons for choosing one over the other. This is a business case for why one makes a better choice over the other.

@terminator

do you want a business case/question?
Why should I invest for A1/OS4 when exists mini mac/MacOS X with more potentials and still gaining the market?
They incrased their revenues like nobody else in the IT market!
I wish I had more money to buy more of their shares.


I want to apologise for my raw-language, but I see that A1/OS4 is not capable for Desktop applications this momment. I see it as a second hobby computer or an embedded solution but not a Desktop solution.

Last edited by liquidbit on 08-Mar-2005 at 03:12 PM.

Well I thought it was a pretty good article.

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