I'm sure I've asked this before, so feel free to slap me down Is it possible for the user to customise it to look just like any other AmigaOS4 software?

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XMLObjects Feelin is not only able to create whole applications from XML files, but is now also able to create XML objects anywhere in your applications (and classes) very easily ! For example, all groups used by the preference editor are generated from XML files. XMLApplications was a first step in the separation between code and GUI, now the user can do WHAT HE WANTS with its GUI.

Now that sounds like a very nice feature! Curious to how it actually works though so I may have to have play with this

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I am in the same camp as Gnarly.

This system is starting to sound quite nice but it relies on custom gadgets.

Are there plans to have an OS4 look and feel, or perhaps to even use Reaction gadgets?

This system is starting to look quite good. Especially that XML support is interesting,

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Yes the features sounds really good! But please.. PLEASE make better previews!
Some that shows it off with NORMAL colors that people will actually use..
These screenshots looks AWFUL to me. Please DON'T use all the colors of the
rainbow the next time.

IMHO!

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@gnarly & gregthecanuck There is no builtin look in Feelin. If you want an OS4 look, just adjust preferences. BTW, the preferences provided use a window decorator called "Shade". If you want to get back Intuition window borders, launch the preference editor, choose "Decorator" from the list, erase "Shade" in the "class" string, and press the "Test" button. You'll get back standard window borders.

@gregthecanuck There are no plans to support ReAction gadgets, since they use BOOPSI and I have my own object-oriented framework. More over ReAction is sooo limited, there is absolutely no interest using it (IMHO).

@Samwel Normal colors ?? You mean GREY ? The preview have been "rainbowized" to show that the GUI is extremely customizable and that each object (and parts of it) can have their own colors. BTW I like them a lot They are very warm, and its summertime !

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@Gofromiel

Considering the fuss that came of early OS4 screenshots, I wouldn't worry about complaints about your using the same color scheme Hyperion did. After all, look how it all turned out.

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@Gofromeil

I would like to suggest that by default a Feelin application looks like any other OS4 application and uses the OS4 preferences for look and feel. Does the current framework support this? If Feelin is really flexible then this shouldn't be a problem.

I really like the fact that this framework is becoming more reliant on XML.

Do you have any plans for end-user customization of the interfaces?


Thanks

I don't think I've ever seen a GUI screenshot with Pink elements before - and there may be some reason for that! Personally I think that your pastel shades is an interesting idea, but clever colour schemes tend to scare people away.

Anyway, since you are trying to attract developers (not users), it'd be better to try attracting them with explanations of how easy & powerful (or not) it is, perhaps with some example code, rather than trying to scare them with wacky colour schemes

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I would like to suggest that by default a Feelin application looks like any other OS4 application and uses the OS4 preferences for look and feel.

The fact is that there is no default settings in Feelin, so each Feelin release comes with my current preferences. I know nothing about OS4 look and feel and I don't think it's that important, but if you have suggestions...

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Do you have any plans for end-user customization of the interfaces?

Plans ?! Well, currently with the preference editor you can customize EXTREMELY every aspect of your GUI, and with XML you can EDIT your GUI as YOU like. For example, all preference groups are created from XML files located in "Feelin:XMLSources/Feelin/Preferences". Try to play with them

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I don't think I've ever seen a GUI screenshot with Pink elements before

There is a biginning to everything Usualy screenshots are very dark, but its not MY personnal taste. I like shinny things with a lot of unusual colors...

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Anyway, since you are trying to attract developers (not users), it'd be better to try attracting them with explanations of how easy & powerful (or not) it is, perhaps with some example code

What could I say : Feelin is the most powerful framework available on the Amiga platform, but it's brand new and lacks of support ?! There are some demos in the "Feelin:Demos" directory. They are not awesome but show little things like gadgets and XML support...

I need YOU to ask me questions about Feelin. But you have to read the website documentation first

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What could I say : Feelin is the most powerful framework available on the Amiga platform, but it's brand new and lacks of support ?!

If I ever get my language/compiler finished (don't ask!), I might well consider Feelin as the first GUI I'll try to use on the Amiga... but having kept an eye on it for a while, I have been put-off by the fact that major changes keep being made! I realise that is because you keep finding better ways to do stuff (which should make it really good in the end), but personally I don't want to start learning a GUI tookit while it's design isn't fixed yet. :-/

So please keep up the good work - hopefully it'll start to pick-up in popularity once it's stabilised a bit more, and is used by one or two programs.

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@ChrisH Well thank you (I think ?? ) Yes I keep finding better ways to do things, I don't want to keep old things just because they where there for a long time. Since Feelin is not used by ANYBODY I don't care losing compatibility. I just want Feelin to be at its best, and used by EVERYBODY .

Some things are becoming fixed. For example feelin.library as not changed much this time And XML applications as well as XML objects are future proof... I hope Now I'm working on menus... but I'll try not to modify to much classes

But, you know, it's not such a big deal, since all classes are totaly opaque. Sometimes I make huge changes without any troubles... chance ?

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Well, better to modify the classes now, rather than later...

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