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Hardware News   Hardware News : D-BOX 1200: New Tower System for Amiga 1200
   posted by DJS on 17-May-2005 14:39:03 (7190 reads)
Elbox Computer is happy to announce a new tower system for Amiga 1200 computers. D-BOX 1200 is a perfectly designed, modern, functional, spacious tower case.



D-BOX 1200 is designed targeted for these Amiga 1200 users who want to upgrade their computers with the DRAGON 1200, a ColdFire-based accelerator card combined with the PCI/AGP Expansion busboard. D-BOX 1200 allows also using other busboards like Mediator PCI 1200 SX, Mediator PCI 1200 LT4, Mediator PCI 1200 or Zorro IV with Mediator PCI ZIV.

After all of the amazing Amiga chassis designs that Elbox released in the past few years, the D-BOX 1200 includes the first chassis with the movable back bracket bays born after extensive research and development by the Elbox engineers.

The D-BOX 1200 is much more performance-oriented and versatile than all previous towers for Amiga 1200 computers. Standard features such as four 5.25” drive bays, five 3.5” drive bays, and a chassis prepared to perfectly fit A1200 motherboard with many different PCI and Zorro busboards are combined with new elements like USB ports in the front panel or a movable front cover bay for CD-ROM. D-BOX 1200 tower system with a powerful 350W ATX PSU is ready for massive expandability of your A1200 hardware.

D-BOX 1200 replaces the discontinued Mirage 1200 and E/BOX 1200 (also known as A1200 Power Tower and A1200 Winner Tower) Amiga tower systems.

Pricing and availability

The D-BOX 1200 Tower will be on sale from early June 2005 at the suggested retail price of only EUR 149.95 or US$194.95 (VAT and local taxes excl.)

For more information see: D-BOX 1200 website.
    

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Re: D-BOX 1200: New Tower System for Amiga 1200
Posted on 17-May-2005 16:27:32
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$200 for a tower?! Are they insane?! I've just bought a nice microATX case for my Pegasos for a $30.


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@opi

A custom designed tower, for a non-standard motherboard, and numerous (even less standard) daughterboards, in a low-volume market... hmm... let's think about this for one moment...


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The case looks nice. It's definitely a step up from the Mirage 1200 series. I'd like some detailed pictures of the internals as well though.

I agree about the price being a tad bit too high. Tower case orders carry a large shipping cost attached to them, so a lower selling price shold definitely be in order.

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A custom designed tower


Oh, I bet is very custom-designed. Like other Elbox products. With stickers.

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and numerous (even less standard) daughterboards


Yup. All A1200 boards are different.

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in a low-volume market...


Hobbists should hack some ATX towers, not buy something so overpriced pices of junk. I renember other Elbox ,,custom designed'' towers. Same price, few holes for A1200 board & a sticker.


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It do cost to customice stuff... even if the tower is a standard PC chassi in the buttom they probably need to remove the hole backpanel and make new ones to fit the A1200.

The tower does look pritty decent but there's several 40 towerest that look just as nice on the PC market.

That said I'm about to shelf my MiragePro tower for my A4000... spent over 300 on a Cooler Master Stacker tower (with several extras yes) and I'm still about 100-150 to go before I'm done (hopefully). So their price isn't that bad concidering all the facts.


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@opi:

Elbox tower cases are a very clean way to towerise your Amiga motherboard. The finished job looks very neat and tidy. I'm not saying it's not expensive to do it, it is, but the end result looks nice...especially if you are integrating more Elbox products into your case, such as the Mediator/Zorro board.

I wish I had time, tools, and skills to create my own ultimate good looking tower, but I just don't think that the end result would look as polished as when going for an Elbox tower. It would look good enough, but not perfect, since I obviously don't have laser-cutting percision equipment.

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i have seen atx cases upwards into the $170 or up for quality cases without the power supply. so tis aint tooo bad.


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@x56h34

"Tower case orders carry a large shipping cost attached to them"

Elbox offer numerous free postage promotions throughout the year...

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@opi
Why attack one of the few company who supports amiga?

For an amiga specific tower the price is ok. Naturally compared to my A1 tower, the price is very high. 149 vs 45.

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@ikir

That is maybe in your case but in my case ...

My Antec 1080 tower from 2002 with 450w
special psu with temp.-control for the
fans has cost me 200 euro's, so ...

I find 150 euro for a modern A1200 tower not to much.


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up. All A1200 boards are different


I presume by daughterboards, Chunder meant different forms of Mediator/Zorro boards etc, not the A1200 motherboard itself.

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@Akiko:

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Elbox offer numerous free postage promotions throughout the year...


Have you honestly seen a free-shipping promotion that included tower cases?

They only do it for the light-weight stuff.

I'd be suprised if they offered free shipping on a tower case to a user like me, located in Canada. That be like a 70 EUR loss.

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Oh, I bet is very custom-designed. Like other Elbox products. With stickers.


I think you really don't know what you are talking about. Are you saying that eg. Mediator busboards are not Elbox products? If you think like that then tell us whose product those are?

If you have some personal feelings against Elbox it does not mean they can't desing and create good hardware. I think that Elbox is one of the few Amiga companies who really can do that.

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Hobbists should hack some ATX towers, not buy something so overpriced pices of junk. I renember other Elbox ,,custom designed'' towers. Same price, few holes for A1200 board & a sticker.


You can't fit A1200 motherboard to standard MicroATX tower if you have busboard. Even if you buy full ATX tower you will have problems because A1200 motherboard really does not follow any standards.

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I have the original Power/Elbox tower, for my A1200, it's not stylish compared to today's cases, but, given how bloody tough that case is, I'd give Elbox the thumbs up.


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I think you really don't know what you are talking about. Are you saying that eg. Mediator busboards


OK, Mediator was thier product. What about Spider? What about a RDB-fsckin' code? Where's Shark? When we're going to see Dragon?

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If you have some personal feelings against Elbox it does not mean they can't desing and create good hardware


I have nothing against'em. I only vocal my opinion that we shouldn't eat everything that market throws at us, just because it's related to Amiga. Face it, it's just a ATX tower that was prepared to have A1200 board screwed inside.

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You can't fit A1200 motherboard to standard MicroATX tower if you have busboard. Even if you buy full ATX tower you will have problems because A1200 motherboard really does not follow any standards.


I know that. Yet, I still've put my Amiga in a tower.

Guys, if you think that $200 it's a fair price for a case, then we have nothing to discuss. Sure, we have rack cases or big server cases at work. They costs more that $200. This is justified. But this is just normal ATX Tower.


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It would be interesting to know when they start to sell the Dragon too. There's no big need for an empty case.

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Some people say the Amiga market may be too small to sustain itself, but Elbox just keep on anouncing new products.

They must have an at least a reasonable volume of customers to pay for all that hardware/Software developement. If you check their product page you'll see that they have 29 current, 3 announced and?8 discontinued products listed.

One product I'd like to see them announce would be their own A1 variant they appear to have the hardware expertise and software support to realize such a machine.

I think 20 questions for Elbox is at least now due.

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@opi

Give it a rest. Elbox have done more for the Amiga in recent years than most, they've stayed in the market and persisted - you have to give them credit for that.

Their hardware is excellent, i've brought many Elbox products over the years and never been disappointed... Power Tower (surely the best/most popular A1200 tower ever), Mediator 1200 (first PCI solution for the Amiga), Mediator SX, IDE fix, Spider USB 2... and all the others I've forgotten.

Now if they just made an OS4 compatible motherboard .

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Nice case..but 150 eur for this..brrrrr


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@opi

>OK, Mediator was thier product. What about Spider?

So what if the Spider has a sticker on we don't know for definate they don't manufacture it and if they don't where's the big deal. They produce all their other busboards and interfaces. If you want to know who might be making their tower cases check out this site http://www.elbox.pl/en/index1.php.htm

>What about a RDB-fsckin' code?

Name one instance when this has caused a user (not someone hacking Elbox drivers and were they ever caused any grief) any problems or system failure. Besides which, IIRC they removed the offending code after the fuss that was caused by its discovery.

>Where's Shark? When we're going to see Dragon?

If you take into account the number of products they have already delivered then there should be no reason they cannot deliver these two. The Dragon was only announced some 5 months or so ago and Elbox have said for a long time that the SharkPPC will only become available after OS4 final begins to ship

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