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Software News   Software News : Mediapoint sources no longer available
   posted by Palpatine on 8-Aug-2005 16:45:50 (6688 reads)
Rotterdam, august 8 2005. As of today, the sources to Mediapoint are no longer available to the public. Projects involving the use of the sources that are announced to us (including detailed description) before the end of this month, will be evaluated and may be approved for use.

After september 1st 2005, all non-approved use of Mediapoint sources and executables will be prohibited.

Best regards,
Computer City
    

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Metalheart 
Re: Mediapoint sources no longer available
Posted on 8-Aug-2005 21:07:42
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@ Ron

>no, it is not A1 or OS4 related

Damn !! Is it MorphOS related ? Windows, Linux ??

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@Palpatine

I didn't know Mediapoint binary was freely downloadable so imagine the source!

Many company/people should learn to do advertising.


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Re: Mediapoint sources no longer available
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@metalheart
morphos? I think not... Think PPC but Linux and MacOS

@elwood
It was announced on all major sites as I recall. But advertising for something that we give away for free? That would not be very commercially interesting...

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Re: Mediapoint sources no longer available
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Almost forgot - Mediapoint will be available for free in the full version (but without sources) on one of the upcoming Amiga Future CD's.

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@ Ron

>morphos? I think not...

Oh right, ofcourse Stupid me

>Think PPC but Linux and MacOS

Ah, I see ! I hope it turns out positive for you.

Any other things in the pipeline ?

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@metalheart
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Any other things in the pipeline ?

Nothing that is ready to be revealed

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Ok I checked. It was announced close to the announce of KMOS acquiring Amiga Inc so I think almost everybody was only looking at KMOS and forgot about Mediapoint

Last edited by elwood on 08-Aug-2005 at 09:48 PM.


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Re: Mediapoint sources no longer available
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In any case I appreciate the comment and discussion!

We have plenty of airchair lawyers and GPL police at your disposal. When it comes to nitpicking and finding faults, computer programmers are the absolute best.

The thing is, once you release your sources like the way you did you are out of luck as far as getting it back under your control again. I forget the legal term for it but essentially you have reliquished your rights to a great extent. I think the reasoning is to prevent baiting. Here are my sources.. oh no, changed my mind, I'm going to sue you now. Of course the whole argument is moot unless tested in a court of law but I've read about these kinds of cases before and the judges don't tend to side with the company. Makes sense since it is society and grants you the limited protection in the first place.

Next time, be much more careful. And you should consult a lawyer or two before investing too heavily in any commercial product based on these sources IMHO. At the very least I don't believe you are allowed to prohibit anything now.


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Re: Mediapoint sources no longer available
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@elwood
Right

@ssolie
Sigh... Ok here we go; The only persons who will get sued are the ones who use the mediapoint sources to make a commercial, competing product. And commercial use was not allowed from the start anyway. Today's statement was made to create ground in the event that this kind of legal action will ever be necessary.

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@ Ron

>Nothing that is ready to be revealed

AHA !

Is it OS4 related ? Ehm nevermind..... We could do this all night long

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@metalheart
All OS4 related plans have gone out the window meanwhile, as you know...
AROS however may play a role.

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And commercial use was not allowed from the start anyway. Today's statement was made to create ground in the event that this kind of legal action will ever be necessary.

Sorry for the mistake but without a copy of the actual license we armchair lawyers are having a difficult time finding fault you know.

Kinda weird that if commercial use was never allowed you now need to "create ground" for possible future legal action though.

Anyway, best of luck.


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@ssolie
let's just say that this statement was being made based on expert advice
anyway thanks!

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@ Ron

>All OS4 related plans have gone out the window meanwhile, as you know...

Yeah.... It's a pity, but I'm still hoping

>AROS however may play a role.

Oh, yes I remember now

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@Palpatine
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@metalheart
All OS4 related plans have gone out the window meanwhile, as you know...
AROS however may play a role.


Hmm. What was the name of the STB that AInc screwed themselves out of running OS4, that may use AROS? (just a guess)

Regardless, good luck, and hope you don't take the 'armchair lawyering' too seriously. Yes, there could possibly be issues, but as you're already posting the statement under advice, you know all about them, and it likely won't come into being an issue if there were only a few downloads and they weren't re-distributed.

K, shutting up now, end result = good luck!


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let's just say that this statement was being made based on expert advice

No wonder it doesn't make any sense! The lawyers are already involved...
/me slams his head on the desk

You know, you could have saved a lot of 'discussion' if you just stated 'our lawyers told us to say this..' on your announcement. Cuz once a lawyer is involved all logic goes out the window automatically.


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This is not some Linux GPL software, no need to nitpick


No need to pick on Fabio, he has a point. A license doesn't have anything to do with GPL. If I produce code and put it under BSD license, I cannot simply revoke this. I can put future versions under a different license, but unless my original license didn't say "This license can be terminated by me at any time", I cannot terminate it without agreement of the other involved party.

Note that this has nothing to do with this special case, I don't know anything about the license or non-license with which it came, but unless there is a termination clause, it will be difficult to terminate the license.


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DiscreetFX was one of the 7 downloaders. We were looking to intergrate Mediapoint with the Amiga Video Toaster Flyer. The harddrive we downloaded them to has died so we will need the sources again I am afriad. Help please


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Good luck Ron even if, you are often "too much kind and educated", if you ask me


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@framiga
Thanks, I think

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