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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 11:38:26
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 12:09:24
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| Don't forget the 1361E single-core processor. |
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 12:23:28
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| It is amazing. Hopefully Troika buys from them or they create desktops with their cpus. |
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 12:25:59
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 12:31:10
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| FYI the people who designed this also designed the Alpha, StrongARM (now known as XScale), the Opteron and more...
It seems to be similar-ish to the Freescale 8641 but the cores are completely different (they are 2GHz 64bit PPC) and the internal switch fabric is different. _________________ Whyzzat?
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 14:43:38
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 15:06:32
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I don't see anything in the article about the 1361E being PowerPC compatible. Is it even in the same series as the PowerPC compatible chip? |
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 15:21:30
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| has this anything to do with amiga at all??... or is this another one of them "i wish we could use this instead of..." or "i hope troika or eyetech see this and want to use..." crap... there will never be any hightech amiga yet, letting these wet dreams go public have become boring and are a wayst of time... its the troika motorboard,ack ppc card and the dragon that is the amiga reality.. Last edited by d0c on 24-Oct-2005 at 03:22 PM.
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 15:23:08
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If you look at the linked page, you'll see that it uses the same core (PS6T) as the 1682M. That and the IO is a bit different, the 1682M can use 10GbE and has got 24 SERDES ports instead of 16 like the 1361E.
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 16:03:46
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 16:48:01
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| @doc > has this anything to do with amiga at all??
Today, this second? Nope. Take it as 'general tech news' if you'd prefer.
> ... or is this another one of them "i wish we could use this instead of..." or "i hope troika or eyetech see this and want to use..."
It's general technology news. This is obviously more relevant to AOS and the future than the next Intel roadmap being published.
> crap... there will never be any hightech amiga yet, letting these wet dreams go public have become boring and are a wayst of time...
Ok, no need for you to read or comment then, right?
>its the troika motorboard, Probably.
> ack ppc card Maybe, depending on who you ask.
>and the dragon that is the amiga reality.. What, no mention of shark?
There's a difference between today and the future. Feel free to never read anything that might discuss the future. Oh wait, all 3 of the above mentioned are the future, so what IS your problem?
Lighten up, read or don't if it's not of interest to you. _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 17:51:22
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 17:58:39
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has this anything to do with amiga at all?? |
Why not? It's a potential target for the OS to run on at some point. I rather enjoy these sorts of threads, learning about technology and what's available or coming soon. Pondering how we might make use of such things and what benefits or weakneses it may have compared to other offerings.
As long as new things aren't presented in a "Eyetech and Hyperion shold do this, and I won't shut up about it until they do" fashion, I like seeing these news items. The Gamecube guy on amiga.org has surely far overdone his thing, but that wasn't really possible to begin with, but this chip does have some possibilities to it if someone has the time and money to do it.
I hope to continue learning about new PPC chips, Cell, southbridges, etc. on this web site, as this is where I first heard about this chip, 8641, Uli's M1573, etc. that all have been fun to read about and discuss, in my opinion at least. _________________ All glory to the Hypnotoad!
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 21:17:03
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 24-Oct-2005 22:36:54
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 25-Oct-2005 0:08:21
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I can't see how the Mac people would not know about this?
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 25-Oct-2005 6:06:06
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I don't see anything in the article about the 1361E being PowerPC compatible. Is it even in the same series as the PowerPC compatible chip? |
They mentioned VMX on their web site. This point's to something similar like the 970. POWER does not have VMX, this has been introduced with the 970 and can run in Altivec mode. But there was no clear statement, if the PowerPC ISA is supported or only POWER... we'll see. But at least another PPC vendor, which means competition in the PPC market. Good for prices and availability - I hope. _________________ AmigaOne XE G3/933/VIA/FM801/R200 (fixed), G3SE/600/Voodoo3/Sil680/RTL8139/SBLive! (noiseless!) µA1-MK2/G3/933/R200/CMI8738 XE/G4 (broken 7450/800)
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 25-Oct-2005 6:27:35
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| This looks interesting. Fast, low power, versatile advanced features and potential for low cost. It kinda reminds me of the Transmeta splash and their Crusoe chip.
I’m not much of a geek so I did a quick “Google” on Transmeta and found they are still at it but I don’t hear much about them in the general tech media. This similarity between Transmeta’s announcement and this one may account for d0c’s comments.
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 25-Oct-2005 8:16:32
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| Transmeta being used here. That's the only one I know of.
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Re: P.A. Semi Unveils New PPC Multicore Processor Family Posted on 25-Oct-2005 9:32:46
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But there was no clear statement, if the PowerPC ISA is supported or only POWER... |
PowerPC ISA and POWER ISA are the one and the same and have been for several years. Aside from VMX the 970 and POWER 4/5 are binary compatible with each other. POWER also supports other iSAs but that's a different matter.
VMX and AltiVec are the same thing. In other words it'll run PowerPC stuff (32 or 64 bit) with AltiVec.
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Transmeta went up against a 600lb gorilla (Intel) and lost (even though their later designs are meant to be very good). There is no 600lb gorilla in the PowerPC world so the situation is not the same.
They eventually found they made more money from licensing their low power tech than from making chips so they've given up making chips altogether.
They now just do low power stuff for other companies, a future version of the Cell will use Transmeta tech. They also have people at Microsoft doing something but no one knows what. _________________ Whyzzat?
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