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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 28-Nov-2005 17:02:51
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| I'd really like that book.. Sounds like an interesting read _________________ God is a man with a grey beard. His name is Jay Glenn Miner.
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 28-Nov-2005 17:51:40
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| It is. I am 1/2 way though and find it hard to put it down. I think I will have finished it by the weekend. Good value, a really well written book and as the story of Commodore unfolds, the tale just becomes more and more interesting. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 28-Nov-2005 18:55:07
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| Thanks GuruMeditation.
I guess the next book will be 'The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Amiga Inc.' |
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 28-Nov-2005 19:53:12
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| I think this book would make a great xmas gift for myself. _________________ --------- AmigaClyde
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 28-Nov-2005 20:13:43
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I think this book would make a great xmas gift for myself. |
For me too I saw it last week here in local IT-bookstore (DataClub). When I go there next time i'll buy it |
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 29-Nov-2005 0:34:00
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| I did download some chapters of this book,and i liked it This is a must have _________________
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 29-Nov-2005 5:13:51
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| I haven't read the book, and I assume it will be good, but I have to make a slight correction to the article.
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The Commodore 64 cut a path of destruction through the competition, knocking ... Atari out of the computer business |
Atari's last computer, the Falcon 030, was released near the end of '92. That is, -after- the 4000 (but -before- the ill-fated 4000T). And the 8-bit line continued to '90 or '91 when the last XE Game System went out the door.
Of course, some will argue that this was just the Tramiel's Atari Corp and not the real, Warner Atari Inc, but, let's face it, it really was a continuation of the same Atari under new (albeit poorer) management.
Oh, and the Jaguar came out just after the CD-32 in '93 and was sold right up to Atari Corp's demise - over a year after Commodore fell.
BTW, 3 Jags, 2 JagCDs, 2 Lynx IIs, 1 130XE, 1 7800, 1 800XL, and a real, 6-switch, woodgrain front, 2600 (and a real, working Starpath/Arcadia Supercharger and 'Stella' CD ) (and a Flashback, but that's a different company) _________________ Tony T.
People who generalize are always wrong.
1989 - 500 / 1991 - 3000 / 1997 - Genesis Flyer 1200T / 2003 - A1XE
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 29-Nov-2005 16:10:37
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| Syrtran,
After, before.. it was around that time, and Commodore did serious inroads there. In the beginning, Atari and Amiga competed head to head but somewhere around early 90's the Amiga pulled away from the Atari. More games were produced for the Commodore Amiga, resulting in less faith in the Atari computer, ultimately leading to less sales for them.
Personally I think it's pretty accurate saying that it was Commodore who put the Atari computers out of business. _________________ It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena." Theodore Roosevelt, speech in Paris, 1910
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 29-Nov-2005 16:45:59
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I'd really like that book.. Sounds like an interesting read |
sounds like a good book to make time to read. _________________ "The system no longer works " -- Young Anakin Skywalker
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 29-Nov-2005 18:30:11
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| It's a very interesting read indeed! ...at leat in my humble opinion. I'm about two thirds of the way through since I got it about a week ago, and so far, having lived through a big chunk of that period, to me, the rare insight into this type of company by the various people that helped shape it ( including the ones that got very little credit for it!), was well worth the price of the book.
The only criticism that I have so far are a few minor typos and a gap in how Jack Tramiel, the founder of Commodore, ended up at the head of Atari after leaving/being booted from Commodore during the spectacular succes of the C64. It simply mentionns that he starts a new company to compete with CBM, takes a few people with him from CBM, then all of a sudden, he's being mentionned as being head of Atari, this without any real mention to that effect or how it happenned. I know that this is a book on Commodore, but I would have liked to have found out in at least one paragraph how this transpired.
Other than that, I've loved every page!
It's a great insight into the visionnary character and idealism of many of the top engineers that went through Commodore and the ruthless world of business that they called their playground.
My favourite quote in the book goes something like:
...and Jack Trammiel replied, "I won't give you a budget. I don't believe in budgets. Budgets are simply licenses to steal. I'll just keep an eye on the project, and if you spend too much, I'll stomp all over you."
I'm not a big fan of Jack's, but this is SO true in so many ways that I just had to laugh out loud after reading that. Last edited by elatour on 29-Nov-2005 at 06:36 PM. Last edited by elatour on 29-Nov-2005 at 06:34 PM. Last edited by elatour on 29-Nov-2005 at 06:30 PM.
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Re:The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 30-Nov-2005 3:37:24
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| I ordered mine early... but still haven't got it.
They have replied though... suggesting it's still in the post.
Glad some have got it... I thought originally it might have been vapourware.
Eagerly looking forward to a good read. |
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 30-Nov-2005 11:59:56
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I'd really like that book.. Sounds like an interesting read |
Yeah, might be a good idea for any budding computer companies etc, see where it all went wrong and avoid making the same sort of mistakes.
Or perhaps the book should be re-titled how to NOT run a company _________________ No cause is lost if there is but one fool left to fight for it.
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Re: In stock - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore Posted on 1-Dec-2005 2:36:21
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| I bought it, great book. _________________ Sent from my Quantum Computer.
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