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Hardware News   Hardware News : New product by Individual Computers: Keyrah
   posted by Wiesel on 17-Dec-2005 0:05:07 (3397 reads)
Keyrah makes keyboards of classic computers available to new computers. The board fits the case of a C64, VIC-20, C128, C-16 or Amiga 1200, and turns the computer into a USB keyboard. Keyrah gives new life to defective computers, or computers that have been moved to a different case, because the mainboard is no longer needed. In addition to that, two digital joysticks can be connected that will act as additional keys (for example cursor keys). The joystick ports show a special strength of Keyrah: The high data transfer speed.

We followed the discussion about a newly produced USB-version of a classic joystick with great interest. Many customers have judged this joystick as unusable, because the reaction to any movement is too inert, thus making games unplayable. For the full gaming fun, Keyrah transfers it's data ten times faster than the USB version of that joystick!

As a special titbit for fans of the C64, we're using a switch that's almost identical to the one of the original computer. The only difference (not noticable to the user) is that it's lead-free, and therefore RoHS-conform. It switches between two keymaps that are either adjusted to the daily use under Windows, or especially for emulators like Vice and Amiga Forever.

Keyrah has been successfully tested with all common operating systems like Linux, Amiga OS, Mac OS and Windows. It works on desktop and laptop computers, but also on the X-Box. Keyrah is a standard USB human interface device, so proper function is also ensured with systems that are not mentioned here.

Keyrah will be available in february 2006, the price will be about 30,- EUR. The exact scope of delivery is not yet decided, we're investigating the possibilty to include a USB cable and tools for this price, so we can deliver a package that our customers are used to: Ready to go without additional equuipment.


    

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BigBentheAussie 
Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
Posted on 17-Dec-2005 6:05:56
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Hmmmm... Got a broken C64 laying around somewhere.
Might be worth it just for the shock value of people seeing you running windows.

Problem is ...None of my digital joysticks work any more, and where could you buy them these days?

Errrrr....An ACK board in a gutted C64 case anyone?

Ok. Going back to my happy place now.
We have no weiners!!! Is yours broken too?


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
Posted on 17-Dec-2005 6:12:54
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This sounds really cool. I have two redundant A1200 keyboards, one which has never been used. If someone were two fabricate some standard keyboard cases we could all have real Amiga keyboards again.

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>Problem is ...None of my digital joysticks work any more, and where could you >buy them these days?

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=52&osCsid=cc19a10ce27755c8667e2e133fd9b7f5

might be a bit far you though.

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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
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great stuff!!


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
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Great product.


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
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is it the amiga1200 keybord from lets say a towerd one,
or is it the hole amiga1200 machine,

i have an micro and i want an amiga keybord relly bad,
can i make an 4000/1200/cd tv keybord run on micro ???
with out the catweasel...


when is it avalibe and whot does it cost ???

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Posted on 17-Dec-2005 21:16:43
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Quote:
is it the amiga1200 keybord from lets say a towerd one,
or is it the hole amiga1200 machine,


It appears that you just gut your old A1200 so that you just use the keyboard which then connects to the card. I guess the USB port powers the card so nothing else is required. I intend to use the keyboard and empty case I have left over from towering my A1200 and then gutting either my old C64 or VIC20 to make another "keyboard" for use with VICE.

Quote:
i have an micro and i want an amiga keybord relly bad,
can i make an 4000/1200/cd tv keybord run on micro ???
with out the catweasel...


You can with this, and it's cheaper than the Catweasel. I was looking at the Catweasel myself and thinking of connecting my A3000 keyboard to it, but this is a much better idea for what I have in mind once I find a really long USB cable.

Quote:
when is it avalibe and whot does it cost ???


The above post states it should be available in February 2006 and cost around EUR30.

I've just been looking at WinUAE and VICE because I've never bothered emulating a digital joystick on WinUAE before, and from what I gather, this board will be perfect.

That switch on the side apparently switches between two keymaps. So , you have one mapped for PC use and another for when you run UAE. If I understand it correctly, you should be able to plug a digital joystick into, for example, port 2 on this card and then set the keymap so that joystick2 left = keypad 4, joystick2 right = keypad 6, joystick2 up = 8, etc. Then you can go into the UAE "input" configuration and set the keyboard settings so that keypad 4 = joystick2 left, keypad 6 = joystick 2 right, etc. Once you've saved these setting, a joystick plugged into that port should behave under UAE like a digital joystick plugged into port 2 on a real Amiga.

There's a similar setup for the C64/128/+4/VIC20 emulations under VICE.

At least, that's how I understand it. I look forward to testing it. Jens, if you read this, can you confirm that this is how it will work? Thanks.


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 0:05:34
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thanks,
hmm iff there wont bee a os 4.0 final for this xmass, there are atleast this news,
my brother have an 4000 keyboard and a cd-tv the black one, iff i rember right.
i am angest using the only pci slot for a catweasel just for the keyboard reason,

soo happy mode on,
i am locking forward to this, i think its not the right feeling to run the os 4.0 on the pc keyboard,

thats the only thing i am missing hehe, arghh not quite but a real keyboard will come in handy,

evry time i think i am making a warm rebot its a cold reboot,
with this pc keybaord, i have found like 4 combonations to cold reboot and like 2 to make the warm, this keyboard is making mee angry,

and something has gone worng in my instalation it gos out in uboot, when i push the "ESC" and exit, its boot op normal.

something else was worng some time ago so i have to write boot before it startet op and with my onstable system its was not fun to use it,
when i make the first install, evry thing was perfekt, but with more and more software on things got onstable

now i am like, i am gonna wait for the final and then reinstall, use it full time and then make this pc a aros machine,

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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
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I am really sorry, I don't really know exactly what this does exactly. I know it have been described there but somehow it did not get through and I have no idea what it does. Can anyone help?

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If you have a C-64 or similar computer that is broken, but the keyboard is still ok, you can put this unit in the case and connect the C-64 keyboard to it. You can then attach this C-64 to a different computer (PC etc.) through USB and the C-64 acts as a normal keyboard. (And you can use old joysticks aswell)


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
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my brother have an 4000 keyboard and a cd-tv the black one


All "serial" keyboards (A500, A1000, A2000, A3000, A4000, CDTV) won't work with the Keyrah.

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Quote:
All "serial" keyboards (A500, A1000, A2000, A3000, A4000, CDTV) won't work with the Keyrah.


Thanks for that info. I was wondering why this was aimed at the A1200 only on the Amiga side and not the A500 too.

Jens probably should mention this in order to fend of the barage of emails he's going to get demanding an A500 version. :)


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Re: New product by individual Computers: Keyrah
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:52:54
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Will be good for emulators to give them that more authentic feel. How about one for some non commodore computers, just imaging using an old spectrum rubber keyboard with the latest speccy emulators. That would really make them complete.

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Quote:
All "serial" keyboards (A500, A1000, A2000, A3000, A4000, CDTV) won't work with the Keyrah.


I wonder if it would be possible to put an A1200 keyboard and the Keyrah inside an A2000/3000/4000/CDTV keyboard case to make a neater unit? That would be pretty cool.

Robert


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@rhino
yes then i just have to find an old amiga1200 and rip the keyboard out and stup it in the a4000 keybord and then i am flaying

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:18:07
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Nice&Cool!!! :) :)


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That's , a great way to recycle machines.


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"titbit"?

Wooo, that makes me think of something naughty


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