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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 2:10:10
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| Good luck to them.
Maybe if they make a buttload of $$$ they'll buy back Amiga from Gateway and pull a Google on the world _________________ ...wait... what?
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 3:02:20
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| It would be awesome for Commodore to make a great comeback! _________________
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 3:23:06
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 8:24:53
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| Well well....this is the position Amiga.inc could have been in if they played their cards right.... i'm not claiming to be an expert in buissnes but Commodore is doing (so far) the right thing...branding! selling products that is produced by third party and stick a C logo on it and create a hype around it. That whay they get there buissnes going and investers("knock on wood") will jump on the bandwagon and they will have money to do what ever they like.
But one should not forget the situation the IT market was in in the begining of 2000, not easy to start a buissnes that solely relied on investers, so their biggest misstake could be "we are a software comany only"...instead it sould be "we will brand anything that's dead and can sell" _________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 8:59:49
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| I find this rebranding quite pathetic. Nothing new by its own, just venture to ride a commonly known brand. Too bad that AInc. is trying to do the same.
Also this trick is disgracing the fond memories of the customers. "Commodore? Yea, I used to have a C64 and I was loving it." Commodore shredder? Commodore pocket calculator? Commodore blender? Commodore credit card? Commodore swimsuit? _________________ Álmos Rajnai
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 9:13:19
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| Er - that's *exactly* what Amiga tried to do -Tao's elate was rebranded as Amiga Anywhere, amongst other things... similarly, Eyetech "rebranded" the 3rd party motherboard (can't remember the name/company off-hand) as the A1.
... and, as always, they were vilified by the "Amiga Community" for not doing anything for themselves.
Heads you win, tails they lose... _________________
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 9:50:58
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After purchasing the Commodore name in 2004 for $32.7-million (the deal did not include the rights to the lesser-known Amiga brand marketed by the original Commodore from 1985 to 1994), YMV rebranded itself as Commodore International Corp.
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Lesser known brand! ahem. _________________ Dark Lord Design Wicked Solutions For Damned Problems
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 10:29:59
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I find this rebranding quite pathetic. Nothing new by its own, just venture to ride a commonly known brand. Too bad that AInc. is trying to do the same. |
Pathetic or not it's buissnes wise to do so if you dont have the funds like M$ to pull of something tike Xbox, so you start small branding thirdparty products to lay the road for bigger goals...just as i wrote...
well would you call bying a license for a 3D engine and make a game/or tool based on that 3D engine rebranding? Amiga.inc is/was doing so with the TAO intent. _________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 10:38:06
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| @Chunder
...but the original Commodore made calculators and office equipment too. There was all sorts of cr@p with the C= logo on it. They also rebranded stuff like printers etc the same as Apple did. If they had survived, they'd probably be making/rebranding the same kind of things the YMV are... or would that have made too much business sense for them? |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 10:46:37
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I find this rebranding quite pathetic. Nothing new by its own, just venture to ride a commonly known brand. Too bad that AInc. is trying to do the same.
Also this trick is disgracing the fond memories of the customers. "Commodore? Yea, I used to have a C64 and I was loving it." Commodore shredder? Commodore pocket calculator? Commodore blender? Commodore credit card? Commodore swimsuit? |
There was more to Commodore Business Machines than the C64.
They also sold filing cabinets, typewriters, and other business related items. They also made and sold Commodore pocket calculators, from simple to scientific.
All the new company is doing is using the Commodore brand to sell products. The brand is well known, so it is valuable.
The Amiga brand isn't so well known, so it isn't as useful. Sure, they could try that, but it doesn't have the recognition of Commodore. CBM even branded the computers as "Commodore Amiga" to help with the recognition. |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 10:53:24
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Er - that's *exactly* what Amiga tried to do -Tao's elate was rebranded as Amiga Anywhere, amongst other things... similarly, Eyetech "rebranded" the 3rd party motherboard (can't remember the name/company off-hand) as the A1. |
about Amiga.inc i disagree, see previus post, they are not rebranding TAO + their timing was very bad when it comes to software development, hard times to secure funds...
Eyetech on the other hand is branding a third party product and a good chooise to, unfortunatly this market is to small to sustain a simple and "cheap" bussines like that (and other problems on the road as we all know). But what i wrote about was for the massmarket and the way to secure funds for bigger goals. Although i don't know the buissnesplan of commodore, they could just be out for cashing in on the brand, how knows, but they have a good chance in nearby future to do something serious if they manage the publicity/hype right and if they really have a plan to do so. _________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 11:08:24
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| At this point, I think most of us would be glad to have the new Commodore to bring to market an OS4 based Amiga. At least it seems they have what it takes to put the Amiga brand back out there again. Even if based off of the current µA1 design. It would be nice to see a fully packaged Amiga branded system on the market. |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 15:23:15
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| I would buy even stupid things if they were branded Amiga. I could just see it now Amiga International Pancake mix with Amiga berries. It would have little strawberry flavored amiga balls!
I think the new C= is doing a fine job. I hope they do well. The better they do the better the Amiga name will be remembered. Then when people see the C= their next question might be where is the Amiga? Oh! here they are. I think it is a shame how the official Amiga.org web site seems to brush the platform under the rug. A really stupid thing to do. |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 15:31:04
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I could just see it now Amiga International Pancake mix with Amiga berries. It would have little strawberry flavored amiga balls!
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Now that sounds nice! _________________ Dark Lord Design Wicked Solutions For Damned Problems
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 16:05:52
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| Maybe if they have ca$h to spend they could buy out Amiga Inc. _________________ A1200T 603e 330Mhz - Mediator TX OS4.1 F.E. CDTV 8MB Fast, OS3.1, SCSI, MicroSD SCSI & CD32 FMV X5000, X1000, A1XE with OS4.1F.E.
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 17:04:20
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I agree.
@Chunder
Teron Evaluation Board is the name you are after.
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 18:31:15
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(the deal did not include the rights to the lesser-known Amiga brand marketed by the original Commodore from 1985 to 1994) |
That bit of copy from an ignorant hack is actually quite funny ........ |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 18:57:29
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| That might be what Amiga needs right now: to be resurrected by Commodore. That would be neat. |
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 19:46:42
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(the deal did not include the rights to the lesser-known Amiga brand marketed by the original Commodore from 1985 to 1994) | Quote:
That bit of copy from an ignorant hack is actually quite funny ........ |
actually this was a true statement at least in the usa. everybody and their parents&gandparents knew who commodore is. you can't say that about amiga however, heck i didn't even know they existed until i went to the military. even then i saw them and didn't know what i was looking at until an amiga user described it's usage. since i had not seen one in action i just dropped the conversation. later i saw a 2500 in action and at that point i was sold on the amiga. before that point i had no idea what an amiga was(or even heard of one.)Last edited by jkirk on 03-Feb-2006 at 07:48 PM.
_________________ Win•dows: n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
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Re: "Commodore" makes a splash at the CES Posted on 3-Feb-2006 19:49:51
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| good luck commodore!
hope you get what you want out of the buisness. _________________ Win•dows: n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
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