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  Software News : Freepascal for OS4
   posted by tomazkid on 10-Aug-2006 23:38:44 (5610 reads)
Karoly Balogh has succesfully managed to port Freepascal to AmigaOS 4.

From freepascal.org:
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August 10, 2006 The Free Pascal compiler (version 2.1.1) first compiled itself on AmigaOS 4.0 (PowerPC).


Freepascal is a Pascal compiler, you can read more about it's advantages here.
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From http://www.freepascal.org/ :
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Free Pascal (aka FPK Pascal) is a 32 and 64 bit professional Pascal compiler. It is available for different processors: Intel x86, Amd64/x86 64, PowerPC, Sparc. The discontinued 1.0 version also supports the Motorola 680x0. The following operating systems are supported: Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X/Darwin, Mac OS classic, DOS, Win32, OS/2, Netware (libc and classic) and MorphOS.
    

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Re: Freepascal for OS4
Posted on 11-Aug-2006 1:10:07
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More Power!

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Great news!

Maybe now Pixel32 can be started on atleast.


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Not only more power, but power delivered into the hands of the Amateurs. Finally I get to code something for my A1! I don't know C or C++, but I have programmed in Pascal before. This is a language that even a fellow whose head is full of doodoo can use.

Thank you for your hard work Chain-Q.


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Great news, but when can we get our hands on it?


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Sounds great. but is there a readable manual for free pascal? I ask because so
many open gl packages have such horribly written manuals.Been so many years
since i looked at pascal I don't remember a thing about it. I've always hated
C and C++ when I was programming for the apple 2 I preferred assembly it was
simpler and easiuer to understand.

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Pascal was designed to be a teaching language, so it's not surprising that it's easier to understand than C, which is a systems language. It also means that it should be relatively easy to find books on learning Pascal, especially if you live near a school (especially just after the exams end )

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umm, so when can we download it exactly?


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@Toaks:
You can fetch the sources right now from FPC SVN, and start experimenting with crosscompiling from Linux. This is umm... not recommended though. BTW, what i ported now is of course only the basic comiler, lot of OS4 (and Amiga in general) work needs to be done. For example i'd like a few volunteers who will help me to convert library headers for C (.h) converted to Pascal ones. I wrote a few tools, which help this, but it's still a slow job, so any help is welcomed.

I expect a very basic binary release this weekend, maybe even today evening, if i found the time to write the README, collect the stuff required, generate a few additional tools, package it, and so on. The binary release will have everything which allows FPC to recompiled on OS4 by anyone. (OS4 SDK with GNU tools is also needed, of course.)

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i'd like a few volunteers who will help me to convert library headers for C (.h) converted to Pascal ones. I wrote a few tools, which help this, but it's still a slow job, so any help is welcomed.


Couldn't you add FP support to FD2Pragma?


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@chainQ:

ah so the news item aint accurate?
I dont have linux and i dont want sources really.

anyways keep up the good work, thanks for bringing OS4 a step closer to where we want to go.

looking forward to the archive later this weekend (or tonight :))

cheers


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Couldn't you add FP support to FD2Pragma?

There _IS_ FPC support in fd2pragma, but only for 68k FPC version (1.0.x/0.99.x, very old). I have a patched not-public(-yet?) version of fd2pragma, which supports MorphOS, at least partially. I used that for the MorphOS port.

For OS4, i decided to write a tiny tool instead (in Pascal ), which uses the .xml interface definitions as base, and created Pascal headers using that. Both is unfinished, but can be released after some work. Again, people interrested in helping, might get the sources earlier. Maybe i'll publish both, and people can develop it further/use the one they like more.


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@Chainq: good work dude!


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@Toaks:
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ah so the news item aint accurate?

It is accurate. It doesn't say anything about a binaries download possibility, it only says what's possible now with FPC on OS4, if you have the binaries. The binaries can be obtained by crosscompiling, or by waiting for the weekend release.


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@Chain-Q

Just noticed in the quote of the news item that AmigaOS isn't mentioned at all? I thought there was a version for AmigaOS 3.x at least. It also mentions that 680x0 processors are not supported anymore since 1.0, is this really the case?

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Just noticed in the quote of the news item that AmigaOS isn't mentioned at all? I thought there was a version for AmigaOS 3.x at least.

There was. But that list of operating systems doesn't mention systems supported by old versions. For example it doesn't mention PalmOS, Atari, OpenBSD, NetBSD, etc. There's some support code for these systems as well, but doesn't being maintained. PPC AmigaOS is not on the list, because there were no stable binary versions released yet. (That means, it'll appear there after 2.2.0 release.)

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It also mentions that 680x0 processors are not supported anymore since 1.0, is this really the case?

Unfortunately, it is. There were too many changes on the way to 2.x, and no one kept 68k codegenerator up to date. I started some work on it to bring it up again, but that's far far faaar away from being finished. (If ever, since i'm complettely lack of time nowadays, and development branch is a moving target anyway. Volunteers are welcomed there as well.)


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Great :)

Pascal was actually the first programming language I learned. Just wondering how much I can actually remember...

Anyway great work, keep up the good work.

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Fantasic! I implement some of our company's products in FPC (on Linux and Win32). This would finally enable me to do some programming for AmigaOS - something I haven't done since the days of AMOS!

There's only one problem I've got now.... I need OS4 available on a reasonably priced platform!!!

@Chain-Q

I guess not running OS4, I won't be able to offer you any help with this?

Great work! Hope I get to use it a some point!

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Thanks for all your hard work on FreePascal ports to Amiga platforms.

I am looking forward to using FreePascal under OS4 in the future.


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I guess not running OS4, I won't be able to offer you any help with this?

Sure you able. It's possible to have a Linux (whatever CPU) -> OS4 cross compiler, and maybe even a Win32 -> OS4 one. Also the utilities i talked about can be compiled for whatever platform FPC supports - they're only using platform independent calls.

Well, testing is a bit harder, though. But let's make a binary release first, then we'll see what's next.


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Great news!


Well done for all that worked on this project.


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