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Software News   Software News : SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
   posted by newbee on 18-Nov-2006 6:52:58 (2989 reads)
SciTech Software, Inc. today announced that it has ceased further development of its SNAP device driver technology
Link to press release

    

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Rob 
Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
Posted on 18-Nov-2006 14:16:50
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Does this affect the contract with Hyperion for an OS4 version. Wern't Hyperion going to do the porting to OS4 anyway?

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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Does this affect the contract with Hyperion for an OS4 version. Wern't Hyperion going to do the porting to OS4 anyway?


I've already asked this in the thread that I created, but apparently nobody could answer (yet).

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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Hopefully someone from Hyperion will can clear this up soon.

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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I think the information from Hyperion atm. is way to limited. No one seems to know anything in regard to hardware or OS4 update5/Final.

Is it the problems with Amiga Inc that keeps Hyperion from commenting any recent questions asked?


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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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@Troels

They've said they aim to have OS4 with new hardware out before Christmas. Don't you think they have better things to do than respond to message board questions ?

 
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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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@ Troels

Quote:

I think the information from Hyperion atm. is way to limited.


I think there has been plenty of information. People just tend to forget what they have already been told by Hyperion.

Quote:


No one seems to know anything in regard to hardware or OS4 update5/Final.


Stop that! There are people who know. Should they share a daily or weekly round up of their progress? You appear to be stiring the pot.

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Is it the problems with Amiga Inc that keeps Hyperion from commenting any recent questions asked?


They simply have better things to do than to sit on here and answer every question about their integrity or motives.

I must have the patience of Job. I do not let these little things bother me. I also remember what Hyperion has said about this.

If, after Christmas has passed and we are without OS4, hardware, or word from Hyperion, then feel free to question.

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
Posted on 18-Nov-2006 22:37:34
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Working from memory here... (errors/omissions expected)

Hyperion were relying on SciTech to do most of the work required for the port.
It was certainly noted that SciTech were responsible for getting a PPC/Linux port completed prior to Hyperion using SNAP.

My understanding was that Hyperion were going to produce API/ABI wrappers to get the PPC/Linux version working under OS4.

To that extent, SciTech abandoning SNAP would leave this whole process stranded. I REALLY REALLY hope that is not true but fear the worst.

Hyperion have already made money on graphics driver code (where is that link!!) so perhaps the could consider purchasing SNAP as a reasonable buisness option.

Here's hoping

Darren

edit: attack of the typo!!!

Last edited by newbee on 18-Nov-2006 at 10:38 PM.

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Framiga 
Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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AFAIk SNAP its not an Hyperion job (or at least it was not)

An italian guy is doing it.


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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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I dont need any SNAP, i use radeon driver

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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I dont need any SNAP, i use radeon driver


Which took 3 years of development to be fully functional (i.e. include overlay support) on a radeon 7000.

At that rate we'll all be using quantum computers before we get a proper X1950 driver.

I don't think that this news can be dismissed so easily.

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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I know Hyperion are really busy getting ready for a release etc...

BUT

I think this is sufficiently a large enough issue for them to break "radio silence"...

Darren

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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@newbee

SciTech's LinuxPPC port was completed a number of years ago (there is probably a news item about this on this site or amiga.org), along with a list of the tested compatible driver modules. For some reason the LinuxPPC version disappeared from their website at some point after this (I went looking for it to see if it would solve my PPC Linux graphics problems, and there wasn't a single mention on the website).

Anyway, whatever SciTech completed must be in the hands of Hyperion. I don't know why it disappeared from their website - maybe it wasn't stable, or maybe Hyperion actually bought up the whole rights to the PPC Linux version? Since then we have heard very little about the progress of porting SNAP to OS4, only the odd snippet which suggested it was still taking place.

Hopefully SNAP will end up in the hands of somebody who is able to create drivers for new graphics cards.

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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@Trez Offcourse they have better things to do. Just think they should post a news roundup once in a while.

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I think there has been plenty of information. People just tend to forget what they have already been told by Hyperion.


I don't know if I have forgotten what they have said, I might not even have seen it as it is spread all over Aw.net.
I just think Hyperion could do a monthly status update or something. News like this needs to be commented IMHO. SNAP was going to be a feature of OS4 and a very usefull one I think.

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You appear to be stiring the pot.

Im just interested in regard to what Hyperion (and Amiga for that matter) wants to do with OS4 both long and short term. Saying they dont give out much information is hardly "stirring the pot".


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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
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@Chris_Y

Of course, there's nothing wrong with contacting SciTech and asking them what impact the announcement has on Linux and Amiga users. They may cite an NDA, but user concern is legitimate.

Kendall is a cool guy, it's obvious this is a file sale more than just a product hitting the end of the line.

And I do agree, if this technology is an integral part of OS4 then some feedback from Hyperion would be good... for damage control if nothing else.

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
Posted on 20-Nov-2006 2:21:33
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They've said they aim to have OS4 with new hardware out before Christmas. Don't you think they have better things to do than respond to message board questions ?


Remember how long it took from the time the original PreRelease "went Gold" to the time customers actually had it in their hands? There is considerably less time left before Christmas, and not a word has been uttered about anything "going Gold".

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Re: SciTech ceased further development of SNAP
Posted on 2-Dec-2006 14:10:28
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Don't you think they have better things to do than respond to message board questions ?


Well, they don'r seem to have any problem responding to questions on amigans.net.

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