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Internet News   Internet News : Save Internet Radio
   posted by jack on 19-Mar-2007 22:07:54 (2458 reads)
Hi all,

Please read the additional info that follows before you start reading this
link:
http://www.savethestreams.org/


Afaik, it applies to all internet radio stations located in US. That includes among them stations the big guys like Pandora, AOL, Yahoo etc.

A snippet form the link:
* Under the ruling released on March 2, Web broadcasters must pay each time a listener hears a song, at a rate that began at 0.08 cent in 2006 (the ruling applies retroactively) and rises to 0.19 cent in 2010.
* Besides increasing the charge for each song, the ruling established a $500 minimum payment for each Web channel making it difficult for companies like RealNetworks and Pandora to offer as many different kinds of music as they do now...read more stuff

Looks like every free station will be shut down. Please act and sign the
petition in the link in the upper right corner of the page.

Jack
    

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Re: Save Internet Radio
Posted on 20-Mar-2007 13:57:14
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That really does annoy the hell out of me . I can see allmost everything that we know of the internet now, will be gone to " pay per view " or just a pile of crap - while everyone is trying to get a huge slice of the profit.

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Re: Save Internet Radio
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I also suggest that people boycot any artist affiliated with RIAA and instead start supporting your favorite independant artists or ones affiliated with someone a little bit less evil than RIAA. RIAA is not about helping the artists, but is instead about milking money from the average user to fill their own greedy pockets.

They are even trying to lobby government into forcing radio stations to use DRM, even if the radio station only play free non copyrighted music or music they composed themself.

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Re: Save Internet Radio
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Quote:
Please act and sign the petition

Done!

I was only too delighted to find out about radio stations that play disco music, something that I've been severely missing since my late primary school years!! There are simply no conventional radio stations that play all those things!

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@jack
While I am really annoyed about this, how am I supposed to sign a petition that's aimed at citizens of the USA? I certainly don't gave a ZIP code or a Congressional representative...


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Maybe there is also another side of coin. Is it right they are streaming copyrighted music without paying to composers and performers? Converntional radio stations cant play music for free either. It is the same in some (all?) EU countries. In Finland streaming (popular) music over Internet costs few cents per listener.

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@itix

It isn't about getting to stream for free. Legit internet radio stations already do pay fees. This is about the unfair pricing structure and sudden (retroactive) price hikes.

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Does this effect Amigaworld radio?


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Re: Save Internet Radio
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@ChrisH

Quote:
While I am really annoyed about this, how am I supposed to sign a petition that's aimed at citizens of the USA? I certainly don't gave a ZIP code or a Congressional representative...


You're right about the wording and the ZIP field in the form. But the point is in making some impact (for example:to show them the statistics of buying CDs ). It's better than sit still until one sunny day you'll find them charging money or closed or full of commercials.

On the website of my favourite radio station that is funded by donations, they did a simple arithmetics: with their average of 100 listeners and 6 tracks per hour it'll cost them ~7000US$ per year while current cost of the station is a bit over 1000US$ per year.


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I don't understand why they're doing it to be honest. Basic maths says they're going to force nearly all of these stations either out of business or out of the US. I'm just thankful that last.fm is based in the UK (at least until the bpi manage to pull off a similar stunt here).


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Quote:
Maybe there is also another side of coin. Is it right they are streaming copyrighted music without paying to composers and performers? Converntional radio stations cant play music for free either. It is the same in some (all?) EU countries. In Finland streaming (popular) music over Internet costs few cents per listeners.

They ALREADY pay so so many percent of their profit. The demands they have now set are impossible to meet, since no pure internet radio station will make enough profit. This will kill of all pure internet radio stations, including bigger ones like di.fm. It makes much more sense to pay a certain percent of their profit.

The good thing about internet is that also the small guys can stream radio and thus giving us the users more variety of music. This will mean the end to this and only the big guys will be able to stream and thus we will be left with radio stations who only play the latest top20 hits.

You must also remember that it already cost alot of money to stream the music as well and they just cannot be compared with standard radio stations since they are able to reach alot of more listeners. Even the most popular internet radio stations have only around thousands of listeners.

Last edited by Tomas on 21-Mar-2007 at 03:03 PM.
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http://consumerist.com/consumer/drm/how-i-became-a-music-pirate-245644.php

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@Tomas

Now that was a fascinating read, Thanks for the link.


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petition signed & sent.


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