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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 11:01:43
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 11:18:08
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| afxgroup,
Even if it isn't, it will still be the best guide for starting to program the Amiga in English. If it isn't, tell me now what else is available. I want them all!
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 11:22:13
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| WHEN we reprint (dont know how many users would like have the book), Its only a reprint from the last english version from the book Last edited by AndreasM on 20-Apr-2007 at 11:22 AM.
_________________ Andreas Magerl APC&TCP - Home of Amiga Future Publisher for Amiga Software, Merchandising and many more. http://www.apc-tcp.de - https://www.amigafuture.de - https://www.amigashop.org
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 11:43:20
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| Well, I'm interested but would depend on the price... _________________
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 15:12:17
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| @royleith
When ever I read statements like yours I just have to wonder wether there is another GURU-book, completly unrelated to the one I have here ....
It is defintly a good resource if your into the specialties of older C-compilers, and even more if you want to build your own libraries, devices or handlers, no question bout that.
But it's NOT written for beginners, nor does it help you much when it comes to writing "modern" Amiga-apps. _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 17:06:49
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| @Kronos
Thanx for that comment. I'm not looking for a beginner book so thatnice to know its a more advanced.
But my german is crap, so I need an English version.
RWO _________________ Debugging is a state of mind
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 17:55:54
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| Cool I've been trying to get this book for YEARS!
As far as I remember, the first edition was in German and covered OS1.0. The second edition was in English and covered 2.0+? Is this right? |
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 19:26:30
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| I've always heard of the guru book, but I've never gotten my hands on a copy. Is the reprint going to be 1.x only or will it include 2.x (or even 3.x) information as well? A lot of stuff from the 1.x days is obsolete but the changes between 2.x and 3.x seem to have been mostly around the ECS to AGA transition (and 4.0's changes at the API level seem to be mostly fixing bugs, moving stuff around and adding interfaces). A 2.x guru book would be very useful nowadays, a 1.x only one not so much.
[edit: uh, hi Smithy ] Last edited by CodeSmith on 20-Apr-2007 at 07:27 PM.
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 21:41:31
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| Part III (about Amiga DOS) would be of most interest to me. I'm not sure how relevant the other two parts are to Amiga OS4. Amiga DOS is the most poorly documented part of the OS. It's API is messed up due to some legacy BCPL stuff. There are still some functions that take BCPL strings and pointers, just to make life difficult. I wish that they'd remove that.
It would definitely be nice if it were updated to include all the OS4 stuff, but I can understand why that's unlikely to happen.
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 22:50:30
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| Quote:
it will still be the best guide for starting to program the Amiga in English. |
No, it isn't. It's mainly for advanced programmers. If you already are an advanced Amiga application programmer, then this book gives you the final hints in order to become an Amiga system programmer. It is definitely not meant for beginners. It does not tell you how to write programs for AmigaOS. It tells you some interesting internal details of AmigaOS.
Bye, Thomas _________________ Email: thomas-rapp@web.de Home: thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 20-Apr-2007 22:59:05
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| @ thomas
Thanks for that. I am ready to buy now.
_______________________ Moxee _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 21-Apr-2007 0:58:53
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| @all
I've tracked down a review of the book, you can peruse it here.
Some relevant quotes: The Guru Book is based on an earlier German book of his, Das Amiga-Guru-Buch, but has been translated into English, and at the same time, fully revised and expanded to cover the most recent AmigaDOS and Exec features up to Workbench 2.1.
In essence, this is a reference guide which takes up where Commodore's Rom Kernel Manuals leave off. As such, it is aimed squarely at the experienced Amiga programmer. Although it weighs in at a hefty 736 pages, including a comprehensive 30 page index, there is very little waffle -- just solid information on a range of topics hithertho confined to the realm of black magic. Subjects covered adequately in the RKM's, such as message ports and device i/o, are not given much coverage. Instead, the focus is on what Commodore doesn't tell you.
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 21-Apr-2007 11:31:39
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| I have heard of this book but never actually seen it or know whats covered in the book. The most technical amiga books I have owned are the Rom Kernel Manuals... _________________ Peter J Hutchison http://www.pjhutchison.org/
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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book Posted on 4-May-2007 10:46:06
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| Having the Amiga C Encyclopedia (C Manual) available as a book with a CD (containing the example programs) would also be superb. I could even volunteer for compiling the required pdf version (with an index) for the book.
I'm not sure if the Aminet version of the encyclopedia is complete, and there may be some copyright issues, too, eventhough it's freely available. |
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