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Announcement   Announcement : Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book
   posted by AndreasM on 20-Apr-2007 11:42:21 (2931 reads)
Some time ago we rereleased the German Amiga Guru Book. We have promised to care for a reprint of the English Amiga Guru Book aswell.

Recently we've been fully occupied with various other projects (amongst others the English version of the Amiga Future) and couldn't take care of the Guru Book.

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Now we have more time and want to work more intensely on this project.

Because of that we ask all users who are interested in a reprint of the Amiga Guru Book to drop an email to andreas@apc-tcp.de using the subject "Guru Book".

This is not a preorder! We only want to check if there are enough interested people for a reprint!
We are not able to tell a price nor release date!

http://www.apc-tcp.de

    

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Re: Reprint of the Amiga Guru Book
Posted on 20-Apr-2007 12:01:43
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it will be updated to the last os version or not?


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afxgroup,

Even if it isn't, it will still be the best guide for starting to program the Amiga in English. If it isn't, tell me now what else is available. I want them all!

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WHEN we reprint (dont know how many users would like have the book), Its only a reprint from the last english version from the book

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Well, I'm interested but would depend on the price...


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@royleith

When ever I read statements like yours I just have to wonder wether there is another GURU-book, completly unrelated to the one I have here ....

It is defintly a good resource if your into the specialties of older C-compilers, and even more if you want to build your own libraries, devices or handlers, no question bout that.

But it's NOT written for beginners, nor does it help you much when it comes to writing "modern" Amiga-apps.


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@Kronos

Thanx for that comment. I'm not looking for a beginner book so thatnice to know its a more advanced.

But my german is crap, so I need an English version.

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Cool I've been trying to get this book for YEARS!

As far as I remember, the first edition was in German and covered OS1.0. The second edition was in English and covered 2.0+? Is this right?

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I've always heard of the guru book, but I've never gotten my hands on a copy. Is the reprint going to be 1.x only or will it include 2.x (or even 3.x) information as well? A lot of stuff from the 1.x days is obsolete but the changes between 2.x and 3.x seem to have been mostly around the ECS to AGA transition (and 4.0's changes at the API level seem to be mostly fixing bugs, moving stuff around and adding interfaces). A 2.x guru book would be very useful nowadays, a 1.x only one not so much.

[edit: uh, hi Smithy ]

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Part III (about Amiga DOS) would be of most interest to me. I'm not sure how relevant the other two parts are to Amiga OS4. Amiga DOS is the most poorly documented part of the OS. It's API is messed up due to some legacy BCPL stuff. There are still some functions that take BCPL strings and pointers, just to make life difficult. I wish that they'd remove that.

It would definitely be nice if it were updated to include all the OS4 stuff, but I can understand why that's unlikely to happen.

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it will still be the best guide for starting to program the Amiga in English.


No, it isn't. It's mainly for advanced programmers. If you already are an advanced Amiga application programmer, then this book gives you the final hints in order to become an Amiga system programmer. It is definitely not meant for beginners. It does not tell you how to write programs for AmigaOS. It tells you some interesting internal details of AmigaOS.

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@ thomas

Thanks for that. I am ready to buy now.

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@all

I've tracked down a review of the book, you can peruse it here.

Some relevant quotes:
The Guru Book is based on an earlier German book of his, Das Amiga-Guru-Buch, but has been translated into English, and at the same time, fully revised and expanded to cover the most recent AmigaDOS and Exec features up to Workbench 2.1.

In essence, this is a reference guide which takes up where Commodore's Rom Kernel Manuals leave off. As such, it is aimed squarely at the experienced Amiga programmer. Although it weighs in at a hefty 736 pages, including a comprehensive 30 page index, there is very little waffle -- just solid information on a range of topics hithertho confined to the realm of black magic.
Subjects covered adequately in the RKM's, such as message ports and device i/o, are not given much coverage. Instead, the focus is on what Commodore doesn't tell you.


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I have heard of this book but never actually seen it or know whats covered in the book.
The most technical amiga books I have owned are the Rom Kernel Manuals...


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Having the Amiga C Encyclopedia (C Manual) available as a book with a CD (containing the example programs) would also be superb. I could even volunteer for compiling the required pdf version (with an index) for the book.

I'm not sure if the Aminet version of the encyclopedia is complete, and there may be some copyright issues, too, eventhough it's freely available.

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