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Internet News   Internet News : Breakpoint 2008 demo productions on A.D.A
   posted by z5 on 26-Mar-2008 21:51:57 (4472 reads)
All productions from the Breakpoint 2008 demoscene party have been added to the Amiga Demoscene Archive.

Read more (Says the mod.)


There were 6 demos released at the party:
- Twenty by Drifters
- Soliloquy by Elude
- Surfing Great Victoria by Nature & Traktor
- The Chronicles Of Professor Arronax by Tulou
- Electric Ocean by RNO & Brainstorm
- Vauxhall by Unique

There were 5 intros released:
- Psylteflesk by Ephidrena (4k)
- Supercool by Supergroup (64k)
- Figure Four by Nature (4k)
- Regrets by Moods Plateau (64k)
- Res Cogitans by Software Failure (64k)
    

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Re: Breakpoint 2008 demo productions on A.D.A
Posted on 26-Mar-2008 23:05:31
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also make sure you guys check out the Playstation 3 demo aswell .
(was even an Sony / Sanata Monica collaboration with the demo group Plastic too, hence its an official scene demo).

PS: Drifters - twenty ,that demo rocked :p

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Vauxhall runs well on my A1 though I'm not sure it displays properly. I'm looking forward to checking the other demoes at the weekend when I'll be in the same place as my A1200.

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If somebody could make videos of those demos.

There's which chipset is required for those demos in A.D.A., but they don't say which CPU is minimum. (I bet minimum is always 060 nowadays anyway.)

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there are videos of almost all of the entries on the offical bp08 site:

http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/download.php

check out the wild compos (microcontrollers rox:) and the c64 demos (cauldron with its chip-d'n'b tune, awesome!)

the elune demo runs fine on peg/morphos but only in window mode. does anybody know how to run it in fullscreen? anyway, this demo is freaking great!!!

and dont forget to get the first three entries of the animation compo - there are absolutely must see!

toaks: what ps3 demo are you talking about? where to get it?

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Quote:
toaks: what ps3 demo are you talking about? where to get it?


The PS3 Demo... In Video.

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@Rob

Thanks, is that the only demo that works on A1?

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The PS3 demo (Plastic - Linger in Shadows) was pretty awesome. Some really nice effects in there and a great tune to boot.

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I have donwloaded some demos form this site and this party and I like them, but I shall like that the demos will works in graphic cards, more when there are many people that we uses emulators, as WinUAE, AmiKit, Amiga Forover, or MorphOS.


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On my AmigaOne-XE:

Vauxhall
(AHI/RTG) - worked fin.

Twenty - crashed/foroze
(gray screen, no sound)

Surfing great victoria
"loading and precalcing..." then nothing...

The chronicles of professor arronax
crashed/foroze - (black screen, no sound)

Soliloquy
crashed/foroze - (black screen, no sound)

Electric Ocean
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception

680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000001 0000000A 00000001 00000000 FFD40001 FFD50001 FFD60001 FFD70001
ADDR: 00000000 691B627A 6A554590 6956F4B3 68A51008 6956F4B6 01DA3C22 6956AF98

68k disassembly:
67e9e91a: 000443f9 ori.b #0xf9,d4
67e9e91e: 691b bvs.b 0x67e9e93b
67e9e920: 627a bhi.b 0x67e9e99c
*67e9e922: 1018 move.b (a0)+,d0
67e9e924: b019 cmp.b (a1)+,d0

Ignore the DSI error and demo starts, no sound!

Psylteflesk
Does not even start

R E G R E T S
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception

680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 0000DBEC 0000000F 00000000 0040ACE0 00000000 000066D9 FFFFFFFC 00000000
ADDR: 67C69004 67C75000 67E2DBBC 67C82BEC 67C75004 67C75142 01DA3C22 67E2DFBC
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0

68k Stack trace:
Address of 68k IP 0xfffffffe not found
69307004 - "mds-regrets-exe" Hunk 0000 Offset fffffffc (SegList: 1a4c1c01)
01e42194 - "Kickstart/Final/dos.library.kmod" Hunk 0001 Offset 00000790
69307008 - "mds-regrets-exe" Hunk 0000 Offset 00000000 (SegList: 1a4c1c01)
01e42176 - "Kickstart/Final/dos.library.kmod" Hunk 0001 Offset 00000772

68k disassembly:
fffffff6: XXXXXXXX illegal address
fffffffa: XXXXXXXX illegal address
fffffffe: XXXXXXXX illegal address
00000002: XXXXXXXX illegal address
00000006: XXXXXXXX illegal address

Error can not be ignored

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Given half the demos are listed as AGA (and presumably bang on the hardware somewhat), I doubt that they will work too well on the A1 under OS4. You may have better luck on a classic machine under OS4.

From some of the comments I read at pouet, quite a few people have problems running them on their real Amigas as well (and a couple do not work well under WinUAE simply because of the JIT).

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@_Steve_

Never say never. Later versions of OS4 have planar screens emulation, and it might be worth trying to run them using ciagent and blitzen.

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Psylteflesk will never work in its current form, as it uses the copper for the color shades, so it's not a simple c2p, but depends on the custom chipset.

The Soliloquy issue is strange, it should work on both MorphOS and OS4, according to the authors.

Surfing Great Victoria uses HAM8 (in other words, won't work, but there are prolly more reasons for this anyway).

Electric Ocean has a Paula-only music player, but otherwise it should work (and it does).

Twenty uses HAM8 and pokes the copper list (and probably more) directly, so it won't work.

Regrets is an ECS/OCS production (A500?), so prolly uses the copper, blitter, planar graphics, and more. Won't work.

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@_Steve_

The requirement of AGA chipset is some what misleading,
Demos that use AGA screenmodes (6/8bit), timer.device and AHI should work, if they are written system friendly and do not contain bugs.

Amiga-ONE / AmigaOS4 do not support HAM6/8, copper, CIAA/B timing,
demos that use HAM6/8, copper or CIAA/B is not going to work on AmigaOne.

Demos where tested whit JIT and whit out ciagent and/or blitzen.


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The Soliloquy issue is strange, it should work on both MorphOS and OS4, according to the authors


I did not read any thing about command line arguments or any thing like that, there might be things I did not try.

Maybe Soliloquy works on BlizzardPPC / CyberStormPPC

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Quote:
The PS3 demo (Plastic - Linger in Shadows) was pretty awesome. Some really nice effects in there and a great tune to boot.

What kind of computer is required to watch this video (h264) (minimum HW) ?

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Vauxhall
(AHI/RTG) - worked fin.

What kind of screen modes do you have ? It couldn't open screen here.

And how to make AHI work in UAE ?


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Quote:
The requirement of AGA chipset is some what misleading,
Demos that use AGA screenmodes (6/8bit), timer.device and AHI should work, if they are written system friendly and do not contain bugs.

Amiga-ONE / AmigaOS4 do not support HAM6/8, copper, CIAA/B timing,
demos that use HAM6/8, copper or CIAA/B is not going to work on AmigaOne.


Not entirely, since as I said, a majority bang on or rely on the original chipset (which the A1 doesn't have access to).

As ChainQ pointed out, most of the demos are not A1 OS4 firendly (or MOS/Pegasos either), simply because they do things not supported by them.

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Quote:
Quote:

The PS3 demo (Plastic - Linger in Shadows) was pretty awesome. Some really nice effects in there and a great tune to boot.


What kind of computer is required to watch this video (h264) (minimum HW) ?


I watched it on my PC. So long as the codec exists for something like DVPLayer, I suspect that the A1's could be able to handle it - if they can handle HD sized videos (that PS3 demo video is in 1280x960 with MPEG-1 Layer 3 audio at 44100Hz 192kbps).

With MPC on my PC, it can use up to 40% CPU time (20% on each core) of an E6700@2.66GHz, although it averages around 20% CPU usage - and is using around 46-52MB ram.

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@Tomppeli

Quote:
What kind of screen modes do you have ? It couldn't open screen here.


My Radeon tooltypes:

BOARDTYPE=Radeon
CMPLENGTH=6
(BORDERBLANK=Yes)
(BIGSPRITE=Yes)
(SOFTSPRITE=Yes)
IGNOREMASK=Yes
(DISPLAYCHAIN=Yes)
FAKENATIVEMODES=Yes
VSYNCMIN=60
VSYNCMAX=85
HSYNCMIN=31500
HSYNCMAX=64000
MODE=320x200@85
MODE=320x256@85
MODE=400x400@85
MODE=640x480@85
MODE=640x512@85
MODE=800x600@75
MODE=1024x768@72
MODE=1280x1024@60
INTERRUPT=Yes

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And how to make AHI work in UAE ?


Try downloading AHI from aminet or some thing, should work whit paula chips.

http://aminet.net/package/driver/audio/m68k-amigaos-ahiusr

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Soliloquy works fine on MOS/Pegasos (on window) and on real AGA Amiga if there's enough memory (fullscreen).

BTW. you can find comments and videos for demos from http://www.pouet.net/party.php?which=450&when=2008 too. Some demos have several videos, like youtube-links too.


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What kind of screen modes do you have ? It couldn't open screen here.


I bet it uses 320x200 or 320x240 (8bit). In any case you should have both for compatibility with classic programs :)


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