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And that sounds hillarious comming out of your

Please elaborate. What are my personal interests, apart from being a non-profit enthusiastic AmigaOS fan/user? Of course I want AmigaOS to succeed, but do I want any other companies or products to fail?

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Poster: -D- Date: 2003/4/28 6:17:37 >but now it's clear to me that his personal >interests far outweigh his reasoning. And that sounds hillarious comming out of your mouth Mike...

And why is that please explain? as anyone can say that about anyone when not backing it up with anything what so ever.

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Ahem...have you forgotten his statements about the AmigaOne? Don't you think those were meant to spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about his competitor's products?

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Not really. Only a dumb b-stard would have believed that G4 is slower than G3 anyway, if that was what you meant? Considering if this one blows out as nothing, it's major FUD.

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-D- Wrote: And that sounds hillarious comming out of your mouth Mike...

Troll in the dungeon! Troll in the dungeon! Thought you ought to know.

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Hey there 1. both Everton and Amiga have been described as lost causes. 2. Everton have spent the last ten years in the doldrums but now, a mere youngster is transforming that horror story. Amiga has spent the last x years in the doldrums and now a newcomer, AmigaOS4.0 is going to transform that horror story 3. Both Everton and Amiga start with vowels.

Oh crap. Fleecy, you know I`m a Villa supporter. Does this mean I have to buy a Pegasos now


And whilst I am here, I don`t think any UK based Amigans can even remotely suggest supporting BB after what happened between VisCorp and Almathera & Optonica.

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And whilst I am here, I don`t think any UK based Amigans can even remotely suggest supporting BB after what happened between VisCorp and Almathera & Optonica.

This was really sad

Click here.

> Not really. Only a dumb #### would have believed that G4 is slower than G3 anyway, if
> that was what you meant?

It's incredible what some people will believe, as long as it is BB who is saying it. Anyway, yeah, the PegG3 vs A1G4 issue was one of the things I was thinking of. If the AmigaOne-G4 truly was slower than a G3 Pegasos, this would imply that the AmigaOne had some serious design flaws. He also stated this more or less directly when talking about the Articia's bugs.

Just the fact that BB was even commenting on the AmigaOne as often as he did, is dubious in my opinion. It is not his product to talk about, and his true motives are fairly obvious.

> Considering if this one blows out as nothing, it's major FUD.

It will blow out, I think, although maybe not as nothing. McEwen apparently *has* expressed that he has too much work on his hands, so something might happen in the reasonably near future. As of right now, though, he IS the CEO.

At any rate, you must agree that if a new Amiga CEO is to be appointed, it really isn't Bill Buck's place to inform the public. He has said quite a few other things as well (including that he somehow had McEwen removed). Hopefully, when this is officially refuted, some members of the MOS camp will realize what kind of man BB is, and maybe even reconsider their faith in his previous statements.

Kay

>Please elaborate.

Your comments made me laugh...it's pretty
simple.

(edit)
You wrote that gary_c's "personal interests
outweigh his reason". That's a cheap way to
label somebody (IMO) becasue you didn't
directly address any of the points in his
previous post....just criticized their motive.

>What are my personal interests,

I think this is an unnecessary question for me
to answer. Perhaps some personal introspection
on your part is in order here. ;)

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At any rate, you must agree that if a new Amiga CEO is to be appointed, it really isn't Bill Buck's place to inform the public. He has said quite a few other things as well (including that he somehow had McEwen removed). Hopefully, when this is officially refuted, some members of the MOS camp will realize what kind of man BB is, and maybe even reconsider their faith in his previous statements.

Agreed. I think the whole thing was a PR stunt to make it seem as he was gaining some foot hold inside of Amiga. And I doubt those who follow his every word will ever see him from anything except rose colored glasses. He is Santa Claus to them.

>as anyone can say that about anyone when not
>backing it up with anything what so ever.

Precisely my point...

@Kay

I agree 100%. I don't know why on earth he would do such thing. On the other hand, if its true that this Garry Hare-person has given a card in march which states him being the CEO, makes me wonder why didn't we know it From Amiga Inc. a month ago?

It's like watching the bold and the beautiful here

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Poster: -D- Date: 2003/4/28 7:22:08 >as anyone can say that about anyone when not >backing it up with anything what so ever. Precisely my point...

MikeB does backup his statements as fare as he can with reasons.

You have not backed up yours at all.

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@Herewegoagain

You can wake up and smell the coffee aswell. It's been a minority of MOS-camp (god I hate these camp words) standing behind him. And I hate to break it to you, but santa claus is not for real

It was mommy and daddy giving all those presents all those years.

Hooligan

Can you please state where you stand on Bill Buck? Is he (In your humble opinion) Genuine, or a charlatan.

Is the Guy straight, yes or no?

Mikey C

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>You have not backed up yours at all.

Backed up my what....??? I thought something
was funny....when asked I explained why...I
don't see what your problem is here.

I respect that his company has delivered what it promised. I am typing this on a (cheap priced) Pegasos now.

What he does posting to public forums is beyond me, and I see no reason for him to do that. Interesting way to handle business I admit, but who am I to tell how to run a business, not owning one.

@ -D-

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becasue you didn't directly address any of the points in his previous post....just criticized their motive.

My comment is based on a discussion I had earlier with him and is not based on this message per se. I explained to great lengths some of things BB has done to me personally. He replied that I did not present any proof regarding my bold claims, then I presented him the proof backed up by some other people and all of the sudden it wasn't such a big deal anymore.

Similarly some people intentionally made alot of fuss about what BB claimed and then when it's proven to be bogus yet again, they claim it wasn't really that important. IMO that's clear and intentional hypocracy.

I love Amiga Inc
I love My Amiga 1200
I'll love my AmigaONE (or SharkPPC)
I love Hyperion
I love Elbox
I love all great amiga company

I love fleecy

I love Bill (but he shoul do performance like Steve Baller!
http://www.circusnoise.com/maicrosoft/video/video3.zip
http://www.circusnoise.com/maicrosoft/video/video4.zip
http://www.circusnoise.com/maicrosoft/video/balmer.mov.zip


Sorry for this off-topic.... but love Amiga don't flame

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You can wake up and smell the coffee aswell. It's been a minority of MOS-camp (god I hate these camp words) standing behind him. And I hate to break it to you, but santa claus is not for real

No need to be hostile, I'm not asleep. Did I hit the nail on the head or something? I've seen everyone imaginable on the MorphOS side trying to make excuses for him, even condoning and praising his antics. But I do have enough common sense to know that there are some who do not. But it's those loud ones that appear to be the majority of the Genesi supporters and help to ruin it for the others. Of course I know that exists on both sides so please don't even say it. As far as I'm concerned, this topic is over.