Always interesting to read change logs Kryptos seems like
a cool thing.


I wonder if AmigaOS4.1 also will have an update for AmigaOne/SAM owners
this xmas?

Yeee :)

MorphOS 2.2 roxx

Thx for this update :)

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woohoo !! Fresh 2.2 install coming up ! ;)

Thanks all involved!

This is a good news, I hope that soon the OS 4.1 too..... specially for the Sam users.

Another good new for the Amiga community...

Congratulations to all involved..

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Excellent! I shall download and install this instant!

To be honest I've been finding MorphOS2.1 a bit well, buggy to be honest.

So this is good news!

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Rage quited 29th May 2011

Congrats to all MOS users

Not trying to start any flamewars but how does MOS2.2 compare to OS4.1, haven't tried MOS since it was first released for Pegasos.

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@ Troels

It's not easy to compare anddepends n who you ask. if you'd ask me I'd say MorphOS is better, but in fact that answer just implies that I *like* it better (and know much better, since I have no OS4 maschine myself).

Best is to try both out yourself.
I find OS4 rather more conservative, while MorphOS is more progressive (but still has the better backward compatibility). Plus i think that Ambient is just ways more powerful than WB.
On OS4 I like most that VM is already there.
But all this is really a matter of taste. Both are quite similar (but I still think MorphOS is ahead in many areas).

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If you ask me, I'd wouldn't say one was better than the other, but...

Amiga OS4.1 is more of a continuation of 3.1>3.5>3.9, only better, much better. While MorphOS is more an Amiga OS Improved.

Now it depends if you like these improvments, personnaly I prefer OS4.1, but I wouldn't say it was 'better'.

Both fast, OS4.1 was more stable, dodgy aps would crash it out of course, but MorphOS seemed to need rebooting more often. Hopefully 2.2 will sort that out.

I've never noticed any difference in running 68K aps to be honest, maybe I just don't use that many anymore.

I'd say OWB with the exception of tabs and downloads (!) was better than the last release of Sputnik, which was a while ago thinking about it.

The Hardware of Peg 2 I like better than my µA1, THAT IS ALL..

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Rage quited 29th May 2011

To be fair, our current shell and workbench need improving, but they are working on it. They're the main two ways to use AmigaOS, so MorphOS tends to win out in comparisions currently. Workbench is too weak for me, so I use shell and scripts a lot.

@Troels

As already mentioned MorphOS2.1 is a little buggy. Hopefully the new update will improve this?

IMHO OS4.1 feels more like a natural progression from OS3.9, although MorphOS is still very "Amiga" like. Which is better? It will depend on your perspective. If you are a OS4.1 users, you will probably prefer OS4.1. If you are a MorphOS user, then probably MorphOS.

Personally I lean towards OS4.1, but can appreciate the merits of MorphOS.

TrevorD

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@Trevordick

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As already mentioned MorphOS2.1 is a little buggy. Hopefully the new update will improve this?

Which bugs are you referring to? There were a couple of them, sure, but i'm not sure it's quite fair to firstly define MorphOS as "buggy", especially when compared to another system whose bugs are discovered daily in various threads from this site.

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IMHO OS4.1 feels more like a natural progression from OS3.9, although MorphOS is still very "Amiga" like. Which is better? It will depend on your perspective.

One could say a natural evolution should prioritize compatibility, but that's just a perspective. At a lower level (kernel), different paths were taken, but you could hardly say what would have been the natural evolution there.

But what is there so "un-natural" in MorphOS compared to OS3/OS4? Having a greatly enhanced shell or a desktop that can actually be used for anything else than launching programs? Or unified preferences? These are the major components I can think about that really make a difference user-wise. The rest mostly works basically the same (user-wise). Also, various amiga solutions were reused in both OS (cgx/p96, mui/reaction, poseidon/syrius, amitcp/roadshow, ...), but noone could say reaction or p96 is more "amiga" than mui or cgx for instance.
So i'm just puzzled about this "natural progression" argument.

I also hope you don't base your opinion only on visual appearance of skins or icons, because your argument would be quite irrelevant.

And at last, i'd say that some OS4 additions such as shared objects support and other unix concepts don't particularly qualify as an amiga evolution. :)

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@Fab

I use both OS4 and MorphOS on a variety of machines. I also use various Linux distros, Mac OSX and Windows XP & Vista.

I prefer OS4 and MorphOS to any of the other OS's, but they both suffer from a lack of serious applications.

What visual appearance and eye-candy is best is always in the eye of the beholder? Some of the latest Linux distros are, in some respects, way ahead of both OS4 & MorphOS in this area, but the underlying OS it's still Linux.

Having used Amiga OS since WB 1.3 I consider the general feel layout and use of OS4 more Amiga-like, but as I said before that's just MHO.

TrevorD

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Which bugs are you referring to? There were a couple of them, sure, but i'm not sure it's quite fair to firstly define MorphOS as "buggy", especially when compared to another system whose bugs are discovered daily in various threads from this site.

[irony]Oh, no I wasn't talking about MorphOS being buggy, I was actually talking about yo Mamma.[/irony]

For flips sake man, I mentio I found a now-obsolete version of an OS was a bit buggy, and you have to start with all this "I know what you are but what am I?" rubbish.

And since you ask I would say Reaction was more traditional Amigaish than MUI, does that mean it's better or worse? No, of course not.

But I think we can all agree both are much better than AROS.

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@TrevorDick:
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Having used Amiga OS since WB 1.3 I consider the general feel layout and use of OS4 more Amiga-like, but as I said before that's just MHO

Well, i feel the opposite. I was always a die-hard OS 3.1 fan, and never switched to 3.5 and 3.9, but instead had (and still have) a heavily patched, almost 100% MUI based AmigaOS on my classics. So, MorphOS was kind of natural, from the ground up, for me.

In fact, i already adapted some of the "MorphOS concepts", like separate "MOSSYS:" for my classics, long before i had any knowledge about MorphOS.

The point is, there are always pros and cons about both system, and these were always changing, during the history of next-gen Amiga systems. But the good thing is, you have a choice. Stick with the one you think fits better to your needs and taste.

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@Stephen_Robinson:
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For flips sake man, I mentio I found a now-obsolete version of an OS was a bit buggy

I'm just wondering, what would be the reaction (hehe) if i'd start to mention bugs of previous releases in an OS4 release thread... I have the impression, that the answers would be much less polite than Fab's. But whatever...

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And since you ask I would say Reaction was more traditional Amigaish

By traditional Amigaish, you mean the lack of usability, or the sucky look? Anyway, i've to admit that at least the later was addressed in OS4.

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But I think we can all agree both are much better than AROS.

Oh please... This really wasn't necessary...

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@Chain-Q
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I was always a die-hard OS 3.1 fan, and never switched to 3.5 and 3.9, but instead had (and still have) a heavily patched, almost 100% MUI based AmigaOS on my classics. So, MorphOS was kind of natural, from the ground up, for me.

I was an OPUS Magellan fan myself and therefore tended to stay away from the other patches and mods on my PPC/060 A4000 self build tower. Ah, heady days. I did upgrade to OS3.5 & 3.9 but always used the Magellan WB as my default. Probably one of the reason why I really like the Amikit/WinUAE distro?

So for me the progression to OS4 was more" natural" as I did not have a heavily modded or patched Amiga OS (except for Opus Magellan of course! ) Of course I still used and registered MUI 3.8 and CybergraphX V4.x.

I've been using MorphOS for a couple of years now after installing the 1.4.5 PowerUP version on my A4000T. I have also purchased several licenses for the 2.x version which I run on both Peg I & Peg II and and a couple of Efika's so I think I have a reasonably balanced view of both OS's. But again that is just MHO.

TrevorDick

PS Although I must admit my A3000 WB does look very much like the MUI Workbench on your associated website.

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@TrevorDick

Just one note, cause i think this whole "which is better" is complettely subjective, so makes really little sense to "flame" over it:

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I was an OPUS Magellan fan myself

Magellan runs just fine on MorphOS...

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