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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 8:58:19
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| Is that kind of gui available for AOS4?
Are AOS/MOS/EUAE capable of using those .rp2 files?
((to me it seems that c64forever has nothing to do with Amiga, really))
"The following requirements apply to C64 Forever. Operating system: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 Architecture: either x86 or x64"
Hopefully these run on wine at least... Last edited by KimmoK on 01-Jun-2009 at 09:00 AM.
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:15:06
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When the C64 was launched in 1982 it immediately set the standard for 8-bit home computers. Its low cost, superior graphics, high quality sound and a massive 64 KB of RAM positioned it as the winner in the home computer wars, knocking out competitors from the likes of Atari, Texas Instruments, Sinclair, Apple and IBM.
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:17:20
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| wow ... a great welcome to Cloanto from you 2! congratulations :-/ _________________
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:21:30
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| Oh yes, I should have realised. One must not be remotely critical around any "Amiga" related company in case it scares them away.
As for Cloanto, they have my money for various software purchases. They do not, I believe, come with a EULA that restricts my right to comment on forums about their press releases.
Maybe not, but our Terms of Service do:
Flame/Attacks: Do not flame! Flaming refers to derogatory, abusive, threatening, sarcastic, rude, or otherwise mean-spirited messages directed at members/users. Be cautious when using sarcasm and humour. Without facial expressions and tone of voice, they do not translate easily over the Internet in posts and may be perceived as flaming. Report the flame posts immediately to an Amigaworld Team Member so that the situation can be dealt with immediately. A warning may be issued depending on the severity of flame/attacks.
You've earned an official warning with your last two posts. Try to be more civil from here on out. -- Moxee Last edited by Moxee on 01-Jun-2009 at 03:31 PM.
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:23:42
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:25:39
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| My thoughts exactly. We think as one. We're like two horses together in a harness. _________________ quis custodiet ipsos custard?
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:26:50
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| no thanks ... but if this make you feel better! go on _________________
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:51:19
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| @kimmok
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Hopefully these run on wine at least... |
Well, I've had loads of problems trying to run Amiga Forever on WINE, to the point where I gave up and started using EUAE native on Linux, so I'd be cynical. It wasn't just UAE that had a problem, it was the Player tool too. _________________ quis custodiet ipsos custard?
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 13:56:14
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| This Cloanto 64 Forever is neat, I applaud them, and will buy it later this week. I hope they sell a huge number of this package!
But the Commodore 64 was not the ,and did not, do what they say.
IF it had we would all be using Commodore Business Machines at work instead of IBM clones! What the Commodore had was a pretty good compromise in terms of capability and price with an aggressive marketer and especially aggressive price-cutter in Jack Tramiel. It could have been a better computer and a better company;just a few things like leaving the high-speed disk (peripheral) bus functional and not going to the sllooowww serial bus;not wasting money and engineering on the dead-end TED series,nor the keyboardless 64 game console flop;keeping the memory chip plant that Commodore owned so their computers could have been released with more RAM(early Amigas were crippled by RAM shortages,and the 1700,1750,1764 RAm expanders were under-promoted and under-produced)
Commodore management made poor decisions in research,market,top executive pay,and lacked a clear roadmap of the company's future. |
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 15:44:08
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| So here is some careful wording
The paragraph quoted is hyperbole and made me exclaim the word I am not permitted to mention. _________________ quis custodiet ipsos custard?
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 15:49:45
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| And a replacement to the other problematic comment follows:
It is a sad fact of the Amiga marketplace (and any shrinking marketplace) that criticism of a press release is seen as deeply unwelcome and provokes such a reaction.
Then rest continues as before. I also would like clarification of whether or not the terms of service restricts you from commenting on and criticising press releases by companies related to the Amiga Scene. Do tell. _________________ quis custodiet ipsos custard?
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 16:59:51
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Squelch wrote: Then rest continues as before. I also would like clarification of whether or not the terms of service restricts you from commenting on and criticising press releases by companies related to the Amiga Scene. Do tell. |
Lets try to keep this on-topic from here on out. So if there are any TOS questions lets please move it to PM to a mod.
As a general bit of advice to everyone lets keep in mind that the written word can sometimes come off differently to different readers. Add to that, not all of us are native English speakers. So I encourage everyone, please take an extra second on posts where you are being critical, that if its intended as constructive, that you take an extra moment to review your post to see if you feel you really came off as constructive. Sometimes the time spent there will save you time in clarification later, and the emoticons can sometimes help as well.
Also breaking off into another thread may help. If anyone wants to debate the accuracy of the claims of the C64's place in history, a free for all forum thread may be better. This way the debate can be lively (but within TOS), yet not clutter up this thread too much. _________________ Pegasos2 G3 running AOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.0 Amikit user, tinkering with Icaros VM (AROS) EFIKA owner Amiga 1200
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 17:32:26
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C64 Forever expands Cloanto's RetroPlatform family, aiming to set new standard in ease of use, emulation power and access to contents. The RetroPlatform player technology, the frequently-updated RetroPlatform Library database and content recognition engine, and the RP2 file format act in synergy to provide a superior user experience. The software includes more than 100 games, some of the finest demoscene productions, and other bits and pieces of history. Adding content is as easy as a drag-and-drop. The RP2 Manager feature further makes it possible to import thousands of games at once from existing C64 CDs, DVDs or internet downloads, while the built-in search functionality makes it easy to find more games on C64 preservation sites.
C64 Forever is available now in two editions: - Downloadable Plus Edition - $19.95 - Boxed Plus Edition - $24.95 (includes instant download) |
Well I view this as a good thing. People who pick this up as a C64 product may then learn of the Amiga Forever offering that they may not of known about otherwise before. Plus to me, the price seems more than fair. _________________ Pegasos2 G3 running AOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.0 Amikit user, tinkering with Icaros VM (AROS) EFIKA owner Amiga 1200
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 17:46:43
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 18:19:14
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| I don't really get why some people dislike AmigaForever so much its a simple way to purchase a fully licensed and setup Amiga Emulation package that comes with some very nice extras if you purchase the DVD edition.
I purchased the DVD version as I wanted to watching supplied videos of the end of Commodore and the original launch videos and enjoyed then. For anyone with an interest in the last days of Commodore the DVD's may be worth the purchase price of the package alone, but as always the choice is yours.
Its also nice to have paid for a licensed version of the Amiga software on the CD and the AmigaPlayer program dose make playing amiga games easier for someone who has not owned an Amiga in the past.
I will probably purchase c64forever as well as I never owned a c64 back in the day as I had a ZX Spectrum instead so it will be nice having a play at the c64 version of some of the old games I remember and see if they were any better on the C64.
But as I never owner a c64 I would not even know how to go about starting loading a game or other program and emulators dont tend to come with the manual that the original came with so learning a new platform can be time consuming.
Yes I could probably download every thing on the CD off the internet if I took the time to hunt it down but personally I would rather pay the $25 and have someone else do the work for me so I can just get on with playing the games, If I was still a student though and had more free time and less cash then I would be more likely to go with the hunt down the parts and do things myself approach. _________________ Sam440ep 667mhz, 512MB, 120GB 2.5" HD, OS4.1FE WinUae 3.0.0, OS 3.9, BB3, Catweasel MkIV Amiga 1200, Blizzard 040/40 (BlizzardPPC 060/200 with SCSI removed at present), mediatorSX pci, Voodoo3, PCI network card os 3.9BB2 4MB Minimig with ARM addon boar
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 18:57:27
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| Way to go, Cloanto!
I already own the Amiga Forever 2008 package (premium edition) and I think it's the right way to go.
Not all of us had the chance to work/play with those machines. Cloanto replicates the exact feeling on new hardware, both preserving legacy software and a piece of HISTORY. _________________ GDG Entertainment
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 19:24:05
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| If Cloanto makes a version which runs of top of OS4 I will buy this instantly. Come on, Cloanto, support the OS4! _________________ "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." (Groucho Marx)
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 1-Jun-2009 19:49:57
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Poster: Dwyloc Date: 1-Jun-2009 20:19:14
I don't really get why some people dislike AmigaForever so much its a simple way to purchase a fully licensed and setup Amiga Emulation package that comes with some very nice extras if you purchase the DVD edition.
I purchased the DVD version as I wanted to watching supplied videos of the end of Commodore and the original launch videos and enjoyed then. For anyone with an interest in the last days of Commodore the DVD's may be worth the purchase price of the package alone, but as always the choice is yours.
Its also nice to have paid for a licensed version of the Amiga software on the CD and the AmigaPlayer program dose make playing amiga games easier for someone who has not owned an Amiga in the past.
I will probably purchase c64forever as well as I never owned a c64 back in the day as I had a ZX Spectrum instead so it will be nice having a play at the c64 version of some of the old games I remember and see if they were any better on the C64.
But as I never owner a c64 I would not even know how to go about starting loading a game or other program and emulators dont tend to come with the manual that the original came with so learning a new platform can be time consuming.
Yes I could probably download every thing on the CD off the internet if I took the time to hunt it down but personally I would rather pay the $25 and have someone else do the work for me so I can just get on with playing the games, If I was still a student though and had more free time and less cash then I would be more likely to go with the hunt down the parts and do things myself approach. |
i am shocked.... you never heared of..
http://www.viceteam.org/ http://www.gamebase64.com/ http://www.bu22.com/ (winvice frontend)
its all free... you dont have to pay anything its 100% free!Last edited by d0c on 01-Jun-2009 at 07:52 PM.
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 2-Jun-2009 0:02:12
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| How does this package exceed Vice? |
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Re: Cloanto Releases C64 Forever Posted on 2-Jun-2009 3:30:43
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It contains the retroplatform player and new rp2 file format.
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