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Internet News   Internet News : Amiga.org - tentative sale/transfer agreement reached
   posted by fairlanefastback on 21-Aug-2009 22:34:49 (6508 reads)
Wayne of Amiga.org wrote:

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Hi guys,

Over the past three days, I have been very overwhelmed with the support shown by our members regarding the potential sale of Amiga.org... I am literally humbled to know that there are some of you who will go to great lengths to preserve this great site for the future. It proves to me what an incredible community this always has been.

That being said, I'm very happy to informally announce I have received an offer from a person I trust with the future of this site. He, his partners, and I have come to a tentative agreement regarding the sale and subsequent transfer of Amiga.org.

Once we iron out all the particulars and a contract is signed, there will be a 3-month transition period to follow during which time absolutely nothing about the site itself should change.

All of our current moderators will remain (should they choose to do so), only my successor will need to be chosen by the new owners, and I've made my recommendation to the purchaser as to who I personally think would be the best person for the job.

As I promised when this drama began, absolutely nothing about this site will change in the foreseeable future, save for one staff change. Both I, and the potential owners are in complete agreement on that core ideal.

Amiga.org has always, and will always exist to support the Amiga community as best as we possibly can and I will make absolutely sure that you are all kept in the loop as to any changes, as soon as they occur.

Even though I'm not going anywhere right now, I am honored by your remarkable support, and will always be grateful to each of you for the chance to provide Amiga.org to the community for all these years
    

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Re: Amiga.org - tentative sale/transfer agreement reached
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DiscreetFX is my guess.


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Long live Amiga.org! way to go Wayne


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Great!

Thank you, Wayne an the others involved.

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Good luck!


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Good luck with this, i will check in every now and then as usual.

good to hear the community is still a "community" :)


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I'll say redrum :D


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Excellent news. We did not need to loose another Amiga resource.

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Hopefully, the shift of management will mean that Amiga.org will be AmigaOS-friendly again.


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Hopefully, the shift of management will mean that Amiga.org will be AmigaOS-friendly again.


They had to upgrade as there server was not supporting something that was part of php? (Someone correct me) Hense why they wont be using xoops anymore. Btw, amigaworld.net is using an extreem hacked version of xoops to make it work on amiga browsers so think your self lucky this site still uses its version of xoops.


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Hopefully they will use a system that works on Amiga browsers again - like this site manages to do.

Recently amiga.org has been a total mess in IBrowse so I have not used it for ages.

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@BillE/Petah

To expand upon what Magic said: AmigaWorld.net is running an extremely old version of XOOPS. The reason it'll work fine on IBrowse etc is that it uses tables and old-fashioned font tags everywhere for presentation rather than CSS. Of course, it's great that old browsers can access it, however please understand that this type of coding is considered obsolete nowadays - CSS has been around for well over 10 years and is generally considered a much better way of doing things.

Amiga.org's server was due to be upgraded to a newer version of php (4 to 5, possibly), which wouldn't have supported the old XOOPS install. These days, it's pretty much impossible to get a content management system that doesn't use CSS extensively so they had no choice but to migrate. If a critical security flaw was ever found in the version of XOOPS AW.net runs then I guess we might be in a similar predicament here.

Yep, it's unfortunate it doesn't work well in IBrowse, but I'd say most visitors will be covered fine. OS4 and MOS users have modern browsers like OWB. People like myself with something like a 68030 Amiga are likely to be using a more powerful machine to browse the web anyway. What I suppose might be a problem is people using fast 68060 machines to browse the site: while I believe there are ports of OWB and Netsurf to 68k, I've no idea how usable they are on real hardware. Any opinions? At any rate, it's not "AmigaOS-unfriendly", just "antiquated-browser-unfriendly"!

BTW as far as the main news article goes: Congrats to Wayne for finding someone to pass the torch to - it's nice to know the site will be staying around. I'm betting DiscreetFX has been involved somewhere as well


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Hm, Bill Buck is in business again ?!?

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I thought so too.

Might be good news IMHO.

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I thought so too.


Assuming you're referring to x303's post, I'd say it's rather doubtful - if it's a Bill, then I'd say Panagouleas or even McEwen are more likely than Buck


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Wayne: "I saw Bill Buck floating around here yesterday before I killed his post and banned him. Under no circumstances would I ever willingly or knowingly sell to, or otherwise facilitate the sale of Amiga.org to Genesi or more specifically BBRV."

That should kill that rumor.


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great!

once again, it goes to show that there ARE people that understand business and can do it in a peaceful, fruitful manner.

congratulations to all.

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I think the next person who complains about A.org should have their computer taken away and replaced with a Zenith 8088 running Lynx.


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hey had to upgrade as there server was not supporting something that was part of php?


If it's being paid for why can't the webmaster use whatever he likes? I mean, it's nice to have maintenance features, but why can't the site just be a bunch of files to the webmasters pleasing?

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Recently amiga.org has been a total mess in IBrowse so I have not used it for ages.


I tried to post with it but it wouldn't work so I just use OWB now. And it looks nice and I can be kept in. I'd use OWB more if it has a top addresses bar and remembered my passwords. Then it would be a threat!

But I still can't work out the posting system. It's the only forum where I cannot figure out how to reply to a post with it quoting the poster and allowing me to select paragraphs to reply to. Is that being fussy? I looked it it up in the FAQ, asked on the forum, but nothing works for me! I give up. AW has always worked for me and I find the layout friendlier. Stick to the best.

IMHO he should have upgraded to XOOPS.

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The reason it'll work fine on IBrowse etc is that it uses tables and old-fashioned font tags everywhere for presentation rather than CSS.


I also noticed that when using a CSS browser like on m Mac that it looks nicer. And with OWB as well so I thought it had used a hybrid system.

BTW why doesn't it reply @ people on AW here?

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CSS has been around for well over 10 years and is generally considered a much better way of doing things.




You mean IBrowse 3.0 (CSS) has been due for 10 years!

I always thought as soon as AWeb was open sourced they should have replaced the rendering engine with Webkit. Here we had a real Amiga browser with GUI, menus and everything set up. We just needed to modernise it. It was very popular.

I shall call it "Project AWebKit".

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