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Hardware News   Hardware News : The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived
   posted by BigGun on 18-Sep-2009 8:55:12 (6006 reads)
The first NATAMI Mainboard PCB have arrived.
This is what the NATAMI team was waiting for.

Here is a photo of the first SMD assembled board.
The main-boards will now be tested for functionality.
Progress reports on the NATAMI website will follow.

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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived
Posted on 20-Sep-2009 9:44:33
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Good luck, a 68050 CPU is not so important need that it is possible to speed much up i think.

liboil contain many speedcritical and often used funcs in audio and Videoprocessing.libdirac and maybe ffmpeg use some funcs

http://library.gnome.org/devel/liboil/unstable/ch01.html

there is asm optimized code for CPU and SIMD in and C code.
If this can do direct in FPGA Code speed lots up.

its possible to put pars on stack or put in chipset register, if the FPGA cant address all memory now.

then a number in a chipsetregister can start the FPGA to processing it.

liboil for 68k can compil, and work a little, but i dont know how a .exp file is create.gcc 3.4.0 and gcc4.4.0 do that not.when i search for exp it seem a Visual C++ feature.

thats the part of the makefile that is build for GCC

liboilarray.c: liboiltmp1.la Makefile
echo '/* This file is autogenerated. Do not edit */' >liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo '#include ' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
grep '^_oil_function_class_' .libs/liboiltmp1.exp | \
sed -e 's/ DATA$$//' -e 's/ .*//' -e 's/.*/extern OilFunctionClass &;/' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo 'OilFunctionClass *_oil_function_class_array[] = {' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
grep '^_oil_function_class_' .libs/liboiltmp1.exp | \
sed -e 's/ .*//' -e 's/.*/ \&&,/' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo ' NULL' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo '};' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
grep '^_oil_function_impl_' .libs/liboiltmp1.exp | \
sed -e 's/ .*//' -e 's/.*/extern OilFunctionImpl &;/' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo 'OilFunctionImpl *_oil_function_impl_array[] = {' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
grep '^_oil_function_impl_' .libs/liboiltmp1.exp | \
sed -e 's/ .*//' -e 's/.*/ \&&,/' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo ' NULL' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo '};' >>liboilarray.c.tmp
echo >>liboilarray.c.tmp
cmp liboilarray.c.tmp liboilarray.c || mv liboilarray.c.tmp liboilarray.c

Last edited by bernd_afa on 20-Sep-2009 at 10:07 AM.
Last edited by bernd_afa on 20-Sep-2009 at 09:46 AM.
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived
Posted on 20-Sep-2009 12:48:28
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Since the OS is quite a Issue,
how viable is to use/buy OS 3.9
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=153

with it (42 eur) and add a CD with layer of advanced
drivers, or purchase CD and some kind of licence
to add necessary install dir for NATAMI?


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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived
Posted on 20-Sep-2009 13:54:31
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@vox

Quote:
how viable is to use/buy OS 3.9http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=153


BBRV quote from March, 2008:
Quote:
Some years ago we bought a few hundred copies of AmigaOS 3.x from Petro (can't remember which one it is -- need to check in storage -- probably 3.5). This should be enough to get Thomas started.


I don't know how to interpret the above, but it indicates at one point they were thinking of using any version of OS3.x to get started. I say "any" because BBRV did not seem to be concerned about which version it was.

Biggun quote on prior page:
Quote:
We would like to do this if we could license the OS 3 Kickstart/Operating system.


Hmm...that quote shows a different concern beyond just having the copies of the OS.

AmigaPhil quote from May, 2008:
Quote:
Amiga Inc. has opposed the "Amiga Forever" trademark deposed by Cloanto. They are also in negociation.


I really think they should contact Cloanto and any others that have current status information on the safest way to proceed. If that post is accurate, then I think Cloanto can likely offer the best advice.

To further support that Cloanto is the way to go...

http://amigaworld.net/modules/fleecymoss/index.php?cat_id=20#191

Quote:

10) Asemoon: Will the classic Amiga ROMs ( v1.0-3.1) be included on the AmigaOS4 CD for UAE emulation?

Fleecy: We are looking into this but no decision has been made. It is likely that we will work with Cloanto since they are the only ones with an established and legal product in this area.


If AI's own words aren't enough to indicate the path here, well...

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Last edited by number6 on 20-Sep-2009 at 02:12 PM.


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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived
Posted on 20-Sep-2009 22:44:45
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I understand that hardware is ready for testing,
while there is no OS to utilize it (OS 3.9 can be a start,
with drivers rewritten to utilize new h/w).
AROS 68k does not exist, Linux 68k is not yet discussed.
Another Amiga loop


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