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News   News : Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative
   posted by Daff on 20-Sep-2009 10:21:54 (7792 reads)
The magazine Obligement has published an update today of a comparison about performance between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on a Pegasos II.

This comparative is based on 23 groups of benchmarks including boot time, processor, 3D, USB, IDE hard disk, WarpOS emulation, 68k emulation, etc.


This update added 3 new tests (CD/DVD read, DvPlayer and DnetC), and has made a revision to 2 of the old tests (MPlayer and Lha), and has added some new conclusions.

No subjective comparison was made, all benchmarks are based on numbers.

The article is in French but very easy to understand, and it's available on
http://obligement.free.fr/articles/amigaos41_vs_morphos23.php

An English (Google) translation is available here
    

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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative
Posted on 20-Sep-2009 15:33:16
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how come the usb is so slow on AOS?


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really weird..
maybe someone with an AmigaOne(with working usb) can do the same test?


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Here we go again...


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Why would it be weird ?


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Daff : why going on throwing oil on fire ? (Pourquoi continuer à jeter de l'huile sur le feu ? ).

Dont' you think this kind of Blue vs Red war could live without coming back again and again with benchmarks ?

And yes, i would say exactly the same thing if the advantage was on the side of AmigaOS 4.1

I just think, as I already said, that these tests are nothing than tests for thoses who love comparing the lentht of their.....

The real question is : is your system ok you or not ?


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Sorry for not explaining...
I say weird becauseI like to see the same tests on an AmigaOne OS4.1 tio confirm the results so no possibility of "difference" due non optimised drivers or something similar can exists...
Only that...

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@K-L: why anything negative toward OS4 (or the other way around) would mean trolling ?

Accepting what these benchs show would be a good way to improve the OS instead of crying for troll...


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Quote:

Sorry for not explaining...
I say weird becauseI like to see the same tests on an AmigaOne OS4.1 tio confirm the results so no possibility of "difference" due non optimised drivers or something similar can exists...
Only that...

Well, who cares why it's slower ? Be it drivers, the core OS, the applications used, or anything else ? This test isn't supposed to determine why it is slower (I guess the developers would be the best to look for that...), but just which one is faster/slower, if any.

Fact it is slower. The reason won't change anything to that.


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Well, who cares why it's slower ? Be it drivers, the core OS, the applications used, or anything else ? This test isn't supposed to determine why it is slower (I guess the developers would be the best to look for that...), but just which one is faster/slower, if any.


True. As end user, i don't care who screwed, nor i am interested. Developers should take care for that, not me.

The same goes when i bought my pc; i don't care why XP is slower than linux on same mashine; be it drivers, core os or anything.

Nice work man, i am going to see the results (didn't do yet). Please, give us more tests, ignore trolls.

Question:
i see aros rising fast. Ok, it is still not very usable, but can you make some real-time tests on usability, responsivness and general feeling? I just can't find the time to install it again and play with it (my deadline is soooo close)


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Hi!

What's the point of these comparisons?
There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years!
So who is supposed to use it. There can't be any new users - Or!?

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There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years!


You can still buy new efika.

The point of tests is just what it says; which OS is faster. And the pegasos is the only h/w that supports both OS'es.

We still can't know if MOS might appear on SAM.

Quote:
So who is supposed to use it. There can't be any new users - Or!?


Who knows? If i could afford amiga, i would buy pegasos+MOS because of tests like this. But this is still way more than i can afford for a toy, but than again, ppl in rest of world can afford it more easily than i can do it here...


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Micro 800MHz using a1ide.device, OS4.1

Copy 34MB file from sfs partition to a 4GB USB stick: 50 sec
Copy 34MB file from a 4GB USB stick to RAM: 39 sec

USB 1.1 is slow, but not as slow as indicated in the given bench test.

Last edited by sundown on 20-Sep-2009 at 06:54 PM.


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@Leo

for example I mean exactly that sundown test his usb and get really faster speeds than on test...
SO if you can(or someone else) reproduce all the tests on an AmigaOne and a PEg with same cpu clock and gfx board I think the comparison was much real...
Only that...
I like very much the benchmarks but made it on a single machine wasnt without much meaning to me...only that...


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CyberGfx for OS4 please.....
That should sort out the Gfx performance..


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Well, you can usually see much variance in USB devices in general, to say it nicely...

Maybe the stick used for the test was particularly unfavorable to OS4 USB stack, and not so problematic for Poseidon. Who knows.

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Leo : where did you see I blame Daff for trolling ? Except you, who are used to troll, I never blame anyone for this sport

Anyway, You should read carefully my post and not the part that only interests you before answering.

Last edited by K-L on 20-Sep-2009 at 07:41 PM.


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KL : I don't throw oil on fire. It's a simple update suggested by user because some benchmark was not fair in the first version (MPlayer for exemple).

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K-L: I meant you're assuming it's "throwing oil on water", "war",... and it has nothing to do with that. That's the only thing I meant.


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@K-L

Quote:
Dont' you think this kind of Blue vs Red war could live without coming back again and again with benchmarks ?

Funny how you blame the poor messenger of the news. It's just an objective data.. and since the two systems runs on the same hardware, it is logical that the comparison has appeared...


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@Nicsfot

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What's the point of these comparisons? There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years! So who is supposed to use it. There can't be any new users - Or!?

And since when the comparisons in general are allowed only if the HW is still being produced? What kind of rule is that?


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