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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 14:33:16
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:07:08
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| really weird.. maybe someone with an AmigaOne(with working usb) can do the same test? _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:17:48
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| Here we go again... _________________ AmigaOS 4.1 FEu2 on Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM  C128, A500+, A1200, A1200/40, AmigaForever 2008+09+16, 5 x86/x64 boxes Still waiting (or dreaming) for the Amiga revolution... m4rko.com/AMIGA
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:30:01
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:38:44
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| Daff : why going on throwing oil on fire ? (Pourquoi continuer à jeter de l'huile sur le feu ? ).
Dont' you think this kind of Blue vs Red war could live without coming back again and again with benchmarks ?
And yes, i would say exactly the same thing if the advantage was on the side of AmigaOS 4.1 
I just think, as I already said, that these tests are nothing than tests for thoses who love comparing the lentht of their.....
The real question is : is your system ok you or not ? _________________ PowerMac G5 2,7Ghz - 2GB - Radeon 9650 - MorphOS 3.14 AmigaONE X1000, 2GB, Sapphire Radeon HD 7700 FPGA Replay + DB 68060 at 85Mhz
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:39:57
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| Sorry for not explaining... I say weird becauseI like to see the same tests on an AmigaOne OS4.1 tio confirm the results so no possibility of "difference" due non optimised drivers or something similar can exists... Only that... Last edited by Tuxedo on 20-Sep-2009 at 04:41 PM.
_________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:42:53
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| @K-L: why anything negative toward OS4 (or the other way around) would mean trolling ?
Accepting what these benchs show would be a good way to improve the OS instead of crying for troll... _________________ http://www.warpdesign.fr/
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 16:45:46
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Sorry for not explaining... I say weird becauseI like to see the same tests on an AmigaOne OS4.1 tio confirm the results so no possibility of "difference" due non optimised drivers or something similar can exists... Only that...
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Well, who cares why it's slower ? Be it drivers, the core OS, the applications used, or anything else ? This test isn't supposed to determine why it is slower (I guess the developers would be the best to look for that...), but just which one is faster/slower, if any.
Fact it is slower. The reason won't change anything to that. _________________ http://www.warpdesign.fr/
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 17:17:51
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Well, who cares why it's slower ? Be it drivers, the core OS, the applications used, or anything else ? This test isn't supposed to determine why it is slower (I guess the developers would be the best to look for that...), but just which one is faster/slower, if any. |
True. As end user, i don't care who screwed, nor i am interested. Developers should take care for that, not me.
The same goes when i bought my pc; i don't care why XP is slower than linux on same mashine; be it drivers, core os or anything.
Nice work man, i am going to see the results (didn't do yet). Please, give us more tests, ignore trolls.
Question: i see aros rising fast. Ok, it is still not very usable, but can you make some real-time tests on usability, responsivness and general feeling? I just can't find the time to install it again and play with it (my deadline is soooo close) _________________ May the force be with you...
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 17:32:41
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| Hi!
What's the point of these comparisons? There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years! So who is supposed to use it. There can't be any new users - Or!? |
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 17:44:29
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There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years! |
You can still buy new efika.
The point of tests is just what it says; which OS is faster. And the pegasos is the only h/w that supports both OS'es.
We still can't know if MOS might appear on SAM.
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Who knows? If i could afford amiga, i would buy pegasos+MOS because of tests like this. But this is still way more than i can afford for a toy, but than again, ppl in rest of world can afford it more easily than i can do it here... _________________ May the force be with you...
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 17:45:58
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| Micro 800MHz using a1ide.device, OS4.1
Copy 34MB file from sfs partition to a 4GB USB stick: 50 sec Copy 34MB file from a 4GB USB stick to RAM: 39 sec
USB 1.1 is slow, but not as slow as indicated in the given bench test. Last edited by sundown on 20-Sep-2009 at 05:54 PM.
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 18:06:09
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| @Leo
for example I mean exactly that sundown test his usb and get really faster speeds than on test... SO if you can(or someone else) reproduce all the tests on an AmigaOne and a PEg with same cpu clock and gfx board I think the comparison was much real... Only that... I like very much the benchmarks but made it on a single machine wasnt without much meaning to me...only that... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 18:25:50
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| CyberGfx for OS4 please..... That should sort out the Gfx performance..
Wol.. _________________ It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.~Albert Einstein
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 18:25:56
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| Well, you can usually see much variance in USB devices in general, to say it nicely...
Maybe the stick used for the test was particularly unfavorable to OS4 USB stack, and not so problematic for Poseidon. Who knows. |
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 18:41:42
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| Leo : where did you see I blame Daff for trolling ? Except you, who are used to troll, I never blame anyone for this sport
Anyway, You should read carefully my post and not the part that only interests you before answering. Last edited by K-L on 20-Sep-2009 at 06:41 PM.
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 19:46:46
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| KL : I don't throw oil on fire. It's a simple update suggested by user because some benchmark was not fair in the first version (MPlayer for exemple). |
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 19:48:38
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| K-L: I meant you're assuming it's "throwing oil on water", "war",... and it has nothing to do with that. That's the only thing I meant. _________________ http://www.warpdesign.fr/
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 20:16:11
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| @K-L
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Dont' you think this kind of Blue vs Red war could live without coming back again and again with benchmarks ? |
Funny how you blame the poor messenger of the news. It's just an objective data.. and since the two systems runs on the same hardware, it is logical that the comparison has appeared... _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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Re: Update of the AmigaOS 4.1/MorphOS 2.3 comparative Posted on 20-Sep-2009 20:18:54
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What's the point of these comparisons? There hasn't been any hardware produced for MorphOS for several years! So who is supposed to use it. There can't be any new users - Or!? |
And since when the comparisons in general are allowed only if the HW is still being produced? What kind of rule is that?  _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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