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Hardware News   Hardware News : 4GB CF IDE HARD DRIVE www.amigakit.com
   posted by amigakit on 18-Jul-2010 19:29:32 (2666 reads)
We are pleased to announce that we have just secured a large batch of 4GB CF IDE hard disks prepped/formatted ready for Amiga 1200, 600 or 4000 (specify on ordering from AmigaKit store)

The advantages of our drives are:
- completely silent operation
- responsive drives that run cool
- fully prepped and formatted with our installation software pre-installed
- high quality media fully compatible with Amiga

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Re: 4GB CF IDE HARD DRIVE www.amigakit.com
Posted on 19-Jul-2010 11:30:48
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Why does it list A4000D only? Does it not work with the IDE socket on an A4000T mobo? Seems a bit odd. Other than that a great product to offer!

I guess the A1200 option would work with a CD32 SX32 too? That would be a cool little silent machine!


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Benchmarks please.

And how many re-writes those last?


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Posted on 19-Jul-2010 12:13:12
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Yes it will work with A4000T also


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RE: Benchmarks;

Hmmm. The trouble with posting benchmarks is that there are so many different configuration possibilities with classic Amiga computers that it will be very difficult for them to post anything meaningful.

Solid state stuff is generally quicker than conventional hard drives but this is of course limited to the speed of the IDE bus on the machine. Of course, you can get faster IDE busses for the Amiga computer (of which there are various types) and any accelerator installed in the computer will play a part too.

I suppose you could argue the case for posting benchmarks on a bog standard A1200 and making a comparison between a standard hard drive and the flash card but again this information's usefulness is questionable because if, for example, the standard hard drive is already fast enough to max out the data transfer of a standard A1200 IDE controller (which it most likely will be) then adding a faster or a slower device may not show a different benchmark.

I'm just not a fan of the whole benchmark thing to be honest. I think it can be more misleading than it is useful. If you want performance comparisons then I think you're better off going to the manufacturer's website and obtaining a data transfer rate for the CF card itself.

AH.

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@Amigakit

Any chance you could install AmigaSYS AGA on it for me?


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@Apple_hammer

Thanks for the well put comment.

I think it anyway would be interesting to know for example how much faster AOS3 systems start up with CF drive. On my Amigas the spin-up time has been pretty signifficant delay, forcing me even to reboot to get the system to notice the slowest drives (for example A600 requires this).


IIRC, I've read about 68k Amigas booting up in about 4 seconds with some flash drives. And I imagine my old A4000 should improve from above 40 seconds to below 30 seconds (it has CS060 card and AOS3.9, so it reboots 2 or 3 times in cold start, before loading WB.).

(I like to turn my computers off to save energy & make them more realiable when compared to hibernation etc. )

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Well the type of thing I'd be interested to know, is if it displays a severe write stutter, as random writes queue up. I'm talking greater than 1 second to do a random write, which can give the appearance of a 'lockup' while the os waits to do a write.

That's what I experienced using compact flash...on a pc, not an amiga. And yes, the OS could very well make a huge difference, as it will have different write patterns, so I'm not saying zippo about how it works on an Amiga.

I agree, that all modern drives, and many compact flash, are going to totally saturate the original 8.3MB/s bus transfer rate of IDE (and that was just theoretical, real world, much slower than that 2MB-3MB/s).

The top end of IDE - 133MB/s, which the standard A1200 certainly did not support - would be faster than most compact flash - but again that doesn't apply here.

Flash does have mighty quick seek, and thats great.
But when I used it, it had a write stutter that I just couldn't accept.

So anyway, don't use it with your pc, hehe.

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