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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 20-Aug-2010 20:50:02
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 20-Aug-2010 21:42:29
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| For a PC...
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 20-Aug-2010 21:47:28
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| Is wizz positive? I'm no native speaker and what i found in google is controversial : ) _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 20-Aug-2010 22:01:53
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| @phoenixkonsole
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 20-Aug-2010 23:44:53
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 0:02:06
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| Hmmm ... Do not understand this, why would we buy a PC machine with AROS, which is free? The theme of AROS, and AMC is one of the ugliest I've seen, you should get some real graphic artists to work with you if you will ever get it. AMC is a good project, but to promote it with an entire PC hardware will only become a dead era. You guys should just focus on the AMC to AmigaOne for OS4 and perhaps MorpOS which I am not really friends with through their ugly history.
But I hope I am wrong, and you manage to sell loads of these machines. If you do, I'll ask open with videos of all apologize ... With best regards Shastar. |
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 2:55:04
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| @ Shastar
Firstly, WTF you on about saying Ugly?
Is it OS4, MOS or AROS you were reffering to?
Secondly, if its all three OS'es u dislike, then why are you even posting on here?
Thirdly, I may have misunderstood, and you may actually like OS4.x and MOS, and was just stating that you dislike the history between them.
Cheers
@ AROS people,
May I ask why we would buy this hardware, when one can download AROS? Or is it for users that simply want to get a new PC, and you figured these users may want to have a duel boot system?
DO you make all your AROS machine Duel boot with a Free Linux Distro?
If not, then, would it be fair to assume there may be people out there who buy this machine from vesalia, then simply format the hard disk, to install their copy of windows on there?
Sorry, not wanting to sound negative here, just trying to work out whos buying these machines, when they could go down to the local "Black Market" also known around here is "Swap Meets" and pick up hardware for cheap, then install any Distro they want on it!
Is it because your machines have that wonderful Helmet symbol, for the hardcore AROS users who would like to see there native symbol for their mostly used system perhaps?
Thank you for answering fairly and not taking it the wrong way. I myself am an part time AROS user, Amiga OS is my fulltime naturally, and was simply trying to work out who may be actaully buying these systems.
Cheers _________________ Courtesy of SAM440Flex & Amiga OS4.1 only Flex is 800mhz A1000 with Classic 520 Amiga OS3.2.1 AmiKit 12 MorphOS PowerBook G4 (which can play youtube vids)
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 5:18:08
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| Fantastic machine, but sorry I'm PPC maniac |
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 6:50:46
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May I ask why we would buy this hardware, when one can download AROS? Or is it for users that simply want to get a new PC, and you figured these users may want to have a duel boot system?
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To understand that you have to imagine the following scenario. 1. People in need of a new PC or an second PC 2. People wanting to develop on AROS natively or simply a AROS enthusiast. Combine 1 and 2. Maybe no.2 is an utopia Quote:
DO you make all your AROS machine Duel boot with a Free Linux Distro?
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Not everybody but many have, my machine has 3 operating systems to choose from at startup. Windows 7 & XP or AROS. Quote:
If not, then, would it be fair to assume there may be people out there who buy this machine from vesalia, then simply format the hard disk, to install their copy of windows on there?
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I don't know if we have ta assume that but It's a free world. If you don't like AROS you can use the machine as any ordinary PC no money wasted. Quote:
Sorry, not wanting to sound negative here, just trying to work out whos buying these machines, when they could go down to the local "Black Market" also known around here is "Swap Meets" and pick up hardware for cheap, then install any Distro they want on it!
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The PC from the black market isn't 100% AROS capable until you tested it yourself. Quote:
Is it because your machines have that wonderful Helmet symbol, for the hardcore AROS users who would like to see there native symbol for their mostly used system perhaps?
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Do you think anyone would do that ? Buy a new machine just because it has a nice logo ? That would be funny. Quote:
Thank you for answering fairly and not taking it the wrong way. I myself am an part time AROS user, Amiga OS is my fulltime naturally, and was simply trying to work out who may be actaully buying these systems.
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But yes of course. AROS rocks, and all that right? _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 7:03:05
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| @Shastar Quote:
Hmmm ... Do not understand this, why would we buy a PC machine with AROS, which is free? |
If your PC doesn't boot AROS maybe ? This one does. Quote:
The theme of AROS, and AMC is one of the ugliest I've seen, you should get some real graphic artists to work with you if you will ever get it. AMC is a good project, but to promote it with an entire PC hardware will only become a dead era.
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Yeah, yeah I hear but it's still just a matter of taste, and I heard AMC will maybe be able to have skins so later you can maybe show your own for us to see. Quote:
You guys should just focus on the AMC to AmigaOne for OS4 and perhaps MorpOS which I am not really friends with through their ugly history.
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Which they already do of course. AMC is supposed to be for the whole "Amiga" family.Last edited by Manu on 21-Aug-2010 at 07:03 AM.
_________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 8:31:56
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| Someone is selling PC hardware under the guise that you can run a free to downlad Amiga-like OS on it...
Hands up anyone who already has a PC and internet connection at home? I already have a Kick-ass PC thanks and I'm saving up my cash for a REAL AMIGA, an X1000 with OS 4.1 _________________ Rev 1D3 Amiga 1200, Apollo 1240 (40Mhz '040, 64MB RAM), Indivision MKII, Fast ATA MK V, Rapid Road USB, PCMCIA WIFI & OS 3.14
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 9:01:03
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REAL AMIGA, an X1000 with OS 4.1 |
So your planning to buy 2 computers then _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 10:26:25
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| @Kronos Yummy Bait :P
Did I ask for your opinion in whether an X1000/OS4 combo is a real Amiga? No... but then again we all know your opinion as you seem to want to tell everyone about it at every opportunity.
To me it is, this 'news' is just someone selling PC hardware to suckers who can download AROS for free off the 'net and run it on their own PC hardware. I wonder if I should buy up a load of old dell laptops, remove the dell branding, call them 'Amigo Ones', Stick AROS + an emulator on there and sell them at a special discount... _________________ Rev 1D3 Amiga 1200, Apollo 1240 (40Mhz '040, 64MB RAM), Indivision MKII, Fast ATA MK V, Rapid Road USB, PCMCIA WIFI & OS 3.14
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 11:05:58
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| @Wizzard_o hmm AROS doesn't run on every PC. Network, SATA, Sound and Grafic are hurdles. Especially S-ATA.
Trust me this is just a bonus for AROS entgusiasts. And it is fast. The 2.7GHZ Sempron is faster than an X2 5000+, why? It runs with 2.7GHZ and has 1MB cache. The 5000+ has only 2.2GHZ per core. So for AROS it is slower.
You have to get a bit esoteric : ) If you go to the configurator on Vesalia.de you can choose a MediaCenter-case wich gives you a really good MediaCenter powered by AMC. It plays 1080p h.264.
So what? Also you get the bonus that everything comes preinstalled. Got to the next local store and let them have a look for compatible hardware, let install them AROS (i doubt they now what they are doing), add AmigaForever (including installation), let install them ArtEffect( which costs too), and buy AMC and a FryingPan key, and ask them if they will give you AudioEvolution for free.
My oh my.... what i'm doing here is a gift to the community
The price is low as hell and for a few bucks more you can have a faster CPU (for Windows/Linux)
Why you should buy mine? Well you save money, you get a 100% working system, you get many candy in your..... and you fund further AROS development. That's all.
Don't see it as another PC in the wild..... it is done to run AROS.
Oh by the way, the Mainbboard rocks, you can plug in every AM2,AM2+ and AM3 Cpu in AND it supports HybridCrossfireX (Windows/LInux).
If you dislike it, just press the ignore button : )
Best Regards, Pascal
One thing about AMC: It is 100% skinable. You are free do make your own skins or download additional ones. Oh and i can say that i like Trevor and i hope he me too : ) He will show AMC on the X1000 soon. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 21-Aug-2010 at 11:14 AM.
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 11:20:59
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Someone is selling PC hardware under the guise that you can run a free to downlad Amiga-like OS on it...
Hands up anyone who already has a PC and internet connection at home? I already have a Kick-ass PC thanks and I'm saving up my cash for a REAL AMIGA, an X1000 with OS 4.1
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But what on earth are you on about here then, this news item is clearly not for you. This news item is for those who are interested in FAKE AMIGAS. Are you maybe just trolling a little ? Last edited by Manu on 21-Aug-2010 at 11:21 AM.
_________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 11:39:19
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 15:16:40
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| I really don't understand some people.
ARES One project is dedicated for beginners imho, who they don't have the necessary knowledge with AROS itself as well as the compatible hardware to run it on.
So, it's a good opportunity for them to grab a cheap x86 AROS dedicated machine to try by themselves. Simple as that!
The rest is history. _________________
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 16:54:10
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| I think its really cool, a dedicated Aros machine.. You can also dual boot, so no problem if you need something else... Thanks for the good work, its really tempting....hehe |
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 17:41:36
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| Thanks, it is really meant as a gift or a easy start for newbies. I won't get rich nor Stephen with his Imica. It's just another contribution to help AROS growing. I like the new baby really much : ) Aros flies on it and the board offers really much. It comes with the latest official Bios and support really every CPU available in the moment (AMD). The case shown on Vesalia is just one option... i prefer the MediaCenter cases. But you can see the basic one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCOU5n6aWV4&feature=related You can also see the Software bundled with it. The IcAROS DVD and A-live X are professionally printed discs : )
here is the boot up with a Geforce 8400 for Gallium3D support. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLXzjcgmVLU Without Geforce (just with onboard ATI) it boots in around 3 seconds. Please stay tuned about the ATI chip......
Since we will need soon some beta tester for AMC i think about to invite the AresOne customers (old and new)
Oh and if someone likes he can "later" setup his Startup to go strait into AMC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbKlNLywPkc All videos where made with an X2 5000+ which is under AROS slower than the 2.7GHZ Sempron! _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX
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Re: The new AresOne is available Posted on 21-Aug-2010 19:30:14
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| As one of the most experienced AROS users, I must say this is the way to go. I had so many complaints about this is not working , this is not as fast as it should be etc..
What you get here is a fully AROS compatible computer that will also run the 3 big OS, that you must have, since either AROS, MorphOS or AmigaOS can do everything you want these days.
The hardware here is stunning. It will run every x86 OS with amazing speed. There is also nice that you can do future upgrades easy.
Phoenix; I see the price on the basic model is very low. I don't understand how you can sell if for that little. I guess that the radeon hd gfx is on the mail-board. Just as a suggestion I would try to find a board with nvidia gfx since that is what nouveau and gallium3d supports. Last edited by nikosidis on 21-Aug-2010 at 07:37 PM. Last edited by nikosidis on 21-Aug-2010 at 07:31 PM.
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