@Pascal

Nice

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Want to see DiscreetFX’s effects software in action? Turn on your television ...

Please, if you want to show something, make at least a screenshot and post it on you WWW page. I know you did some work for VideoToaster but the hardware never supported PAL so most results of your efforts where never seen in Europe (including the UK).

Aladin is a bit outdated, so if you try to publish or sell a new version, you have to convince your customers, about the quality of your product, even on an Amiga forum.


@Pascal (Ares Computer)
You have set up a nice distribution for your AresONE, maybe you will get me as customer, a good hardware support is necessary, I know theoretically AROS could support at least some types of hardware, so please tell potential customers about the hardware bundle you want to sell, I'm sure, it might be cheaper to buy an AresONE if everything works under AROS than to buy something else and try to change components until everything does as intended.

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@Arko
But FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE !! MIRACLE !! LONDON !! :)

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About DiscreetFX

Funny: just to make it sound "professionnal" :)

I think people want to see news about the promised (and yet to be delivered) Aladdin 6 for OS4/MorphOS/AROS...

There's no need to repeat the same things over and over... Especially seeing you'll most likely miss your promised september deadline.

Sigh...

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No one wants Aladdin 4D 6.0 shipping more than I do. A lot of time and effort has been put into the new version in fact. Over 3000 programming hours and counting have gone into Aladdin 4D 6.0. The problem and delay stems from the ten years of neglect that A4D got before we took it over. The code was not very portable to multi-platform and took a ton of work to get to that level. 3D animation software is still a niche product so a multi-platform strategy must be followed. The good news is that Aladdin 4D 6.0 had an internal stable beta release on July 12th, 2010 so progress is being made.

Rich at AmiZed Studios has a beta version so he can verify that it is the real deal.

www.aladdin4d.com does have a screen shot of Aladdin 4D 6.0.

The partnership with ARES Computer was Pascal's idea not mine, but he does have a great bundle of hardware that works well with AROS and nice software including Amiga Forever 2009 OEM, Frying Pan, Etc. He is doing a lot to help the AROS market.

The ARES ONE is only sold through Vesalia Online

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone.htm

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The good news is that Aladdin 4D 6.0 had an internal stable beta release on July 12th, 2010 so progress is being made.

Why you say for us, about progess of MacOS version, about which no one here in interest ? We all in interest about aos4 version, and while you say so many words about IMMEDIATE ! RELEASE !! COMPANY !! , then why just not build that "stable release" for aos4, and show us a screenshot ?

And btw, these "3000" or does not matter how many hours say nothing. Because while one programmer can do a candy for 3000 hours, another one can do nothing.

Better post no news, if nothing have to say. Or maybe just post it a bit in more "easy" tone, without that crappy "IMMEDIATE RELEASE !! " :)

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Why you say for us, about progess of MacOS version, about which no one here in interest ?

Not to mention the screenshot has been taken almost a year (!) ago...

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The code was not very portable to multi-platform and took a ton of work to get to that level.

Maybe it would have been a good idea to review the code before announcing something you cannot do then ?

In any case seeing the delay I don't think it's a good idea to post such "for immediate release",... stuff.

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No one wants Aladdin 4D 6.0 shipping more than I do. A lot of time and effort has been put into the new version in fact. Over 3000 programming hours and counting have gone into Aladdin 4D 6.0. The problem and delay stems from the ten years of neglect that A4D got before we took it over. The code was not very portable to multi-platform and took a ton of work to get to that level. 3D animation software is still a niche product so a multi-platform strategy must be followed. The good news is that Aladdin 4D 6.0 had an internal stable beta release on July 12th, 2010 so progress is being made.

dunno about the other folks, but you have at least one customer ready to fork over for an OS4-native aladdin 4D 6.0.

if you have the time i suspect much of the hand-wringing would go away if you could post a screenshot or two of the OS4 (or MOS or AROS) betas in action. it would help tremendously and should take just a few minutes based on your comments about the product being relatively stable at this point. looks like folks on amiga.org are getting a little hot under the collar there too.

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Where in the press release above is Aladdin 4D 6.0 mentioned? This is an OEM arrangment for Aladdin 4D 5.x and has nothing to do with version 6.0. Pascal approached us a few weeks back to do bundle including an option to included Aladdin 4D 5.x with the ARES ONE. That is all this is about, nothing more. If your not interested in AROS please avoid reading this news item.

Since we are on the subject of Aladdin 4D 6.0 I'll clarify some misconceptions.

@kas1e

You should want the Mac OS X version to succeed since it gives us more resources to make Aladdin 4D the best of breed entry level multi-platform 3D animation software for Amiga OS 4.x, MorphOS & AROS. We don't look at sales and say hey the version for that OS does not sell so lets stop making it. That is what ex-Amiga developers did in the past. All sales of Aladdin 4D go towards making the program better on all the OSes it's being developed for.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE is a standard way of wording press releases. Look it up if your not sure of that.

@Leo

Reviewing the code would have been a nice luxury before we jumped in. Unfortunately we were not given that option and it has been a major setback and has delayed the release of version 6.0.

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@DiscreetFX
We want to see a screenshot of the amiga version. I find it weird that it is impossible to come up with a screenshot on a product that has been in development for quite some time now.

@DiscreFX
Are you joking or you are serius ? :) because i hope you already understand, that all these words about IMMEDIATE RELEASE , its usually about REAL release. Like a new update of any OS. Or like new software which many of us wait. Or like something ultra-cool-mega-cool.

But when you post for every post, which mean in general nothing (like we go at show, we make a photos, we eat a meat, we life at home, we make a windows/macos/brabos version of that and that, we release at 100000 time, and 1000years old software which noone really no use anymore) put words like IMMEDIATE RELEASE !!! HEEYYY !!! EVERYONE BE HAPPY !!!
Then it start to be just funny. Check the amiga.org theread, and you will see message from one of users "Thanks for GOD it was for immediate release". You see irony here ?:)

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because i hope you already understand, that all these words about IMMEDIATE RELEASE , its usually about REAL release.

Not that i care about defending DFX but just for the sake of clarity, you (and others) are wrong. "FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE" is standard wording and refers to the issue date of the press release itself, not the release date of the eventual product.
In fact it's used even when you aren't presenting a product but you need to tell your side of the story for example when there's an accident in your factory and so on.
It's used because when you send press releases for example to journalists you can ask for it to be published on a later date rather than when you send it to them.

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Does not matter in general, i think you understand what i try to say :)

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@Leo

Your wish is our command. New screenshot just released and available now on

www.aladdin4d.com


Everyone please keep in mind that the Amiga OS 4.x & MorphOS versions are not currently developed as far along GUI wise as the Mac OS X version so a screen shot from those versions would not impress you.

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uhh thanks but that black mark at the top left hand side of the screen shot hurts my eyes

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Everyone please keep in mind that the Amiga OS 4.x & MorphOS versions are not currently developed as far along GUI wise as the Mac OS X version

It only makes sense to get the version that will sell the most out of the door first.

We want to thank everyone for their feedback both positive and negative. We use it to improve our process.

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