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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:23:01
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| Nice interview _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:38:17
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| Excellent. Truly nice to hear from Olaf.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:40:30
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:05:02
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| Olsen FTW! _________________ Wanna try a wonderfull magical Amiga strategy game? Total Chaos AGA
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:12:05
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| Great interview :)
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 18:38:14
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| I'm doing some / a lot of http https and ssl socket work in the Java SE / EE world right now.... I hope the Amiga API's are just as shockingly complex... CORRECTION: I mean easy to use! _________________ Quote:
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 18:52:52
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| Olaf rocks. EDIT: And I think "30 books a year" warrants an "Olaf's Book Corner" column of some kind. I'm normally in the 96/year category, but I go through phases. Right now, I'm gaming and tinkering, but as winter moves in, I'll go back to reading. Hard SF for the win. Last edited by Trev on 12-Oct-2010 at 06:55 PM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 19:06:10
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| Great work as always Olaf.
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AmigaOS has been ported to the PowerPC platform. Considering the scope of the work, and that most of the code that makes up AmigaOS is based upon the original work of the Commodore engineers, this is a major achievement. As I know by now, this is also the kind of achievement which is extremely rare. Outside the domain of military contractors, hardly anybody is willing to make an effort to port an existing, large operating system to a completely different hardware platform. This is because it is risky, expensive and bound to take a long time to come to completion. |
I do think we tend to take for granted the effort it takes to move a large code base to an entirely new platform. What Hyperion accomplished (whether you agree with it or not) is pretty amazing. Add in all the legal hassles it was a bloody miracle AmigaOS ever moved beyond 3.9. Was it insane to even try? Probably.
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So very true. This is why meetings and shows like AmiWest are still relevant. Computer geeks often forget the power of a face-to-face meeting. There is no substitute. The telephone/skype is a close second but still not a direct substitute. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 19:26:45
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| Good interview. _________________ 4000T/BFG9060 CD32/Elsat ProModule, TF360 CD32/ Edu's CD32 <> A1200 Adapter, Vampire V2 CD32/ FMV Module
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 20:44:45
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| I'm happy I'm not the only one that wants a laptop. :p
I'm more happy to hear that his burnout is fading and he's willing to do stuff again. :) Last edited by billt on 12-Oct-2010 at 08:45 PM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 22:12:20
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| Somebody send him a Sam460!!! So he can enjoy Os4! |
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 12-Oct-2010 23:29:22
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| Can someone please provide an English link which works? I just get an Server Error 500 (in french).
EDIT: Never mind, it's working now. Last edited by ChrisH on 13-Oct-2010 at 11:00 AM. Last edited by ChrisH on 12-Oct-2010 at 11:29 PM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 0:01:50
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| Really nice interview and some wise words spoken. Thank you, Obligement!
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 4:45:50
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| Hello,
Verry good interview. We have a great chance to have him for the amiga since the beginning.
He could even wrote a book for the amiga history and his link with others peoples around the amiga
Yes, A SAM460 bounty for olaf, good idea. _________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 7:26:53
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And I think "30 books a year" warrants an "Olaf's Book Corner" column of some kind. I'm normally in the 96/year category, but I go through phases. Right now, I'm gaming and tinkering, but as winter moves in, I'll go back to reading. Hard SF for the win. |
I am standard geek material and my reading certainly reflects that. The odd bit being that, since it grew up and stll live in Germany, I am not really supposed to have a penchant for the kind of books I enjoy.
I consider myself lucky in that school did not manage to spoil English language literature for me, as it did for German language literature. I'll probably never be able to summon sufficient interest to try and read Thomas Mann, Günther Grass or Heinrich Böll. I would rather spend my time reading Vladimir Nabokov, Cormac McCarthy or Joseph Heller. But I probably won't ever read "Fahrenheit 451" again...
I very much enjoy non-fiction. The non-fiction books I read in the past 10 years which stood out most for me are "Phantoms in the brain" by V.S. Ramachandran and "A people's tragedy" by Orlando Figes.
As for fiction, I prefer what's called "genre fiction", but that does not mean I won't stray beyond its domain. The non-fiction books I read in the past 10 years which impressed me the most were "Titus Groan" by Mervyn Peake, "Lord of Light" by Roger Zelazny, "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman, the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson, the Book of the New Sun (all of it) by Gene Wolfe and the "Promethea" series by Alan Moore.
I hope that this will satisfy your curiousity Last edited by olsen on 13-Oct-2010 at 07:38 AM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 7:37:10
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Somebody send him a Sam460!!! So he can enjoy Os4! |
An AmigaOne and a Sam440ep were kindly loaned to me years ago. It would not have been possible to contribute to OS4 development without having the necessary gear at hand.
What I do not have access to is an X1000, and from how things currently look like, it is not for me. I already feel bad for not making better use of the Sam440ep. |
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 7:56:46
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| @ Olsen From your interview: Quote:
I would say that the chances to see AmigaOS run on an ARM are much higher than to see it run on an x86 family processor. |
I'd buy AmigaOS 4.x for EFIKA MX Smartbook in a heartbeat |
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 8:15:11
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I'd buy AmigaOS 4.x for EFIKA MX Smartbook in a heartbeat |
Please take that ARM comment for what it is: the sacrifices that would have to be made to get AmigaOS working on the x86 platform would be greater than by comparison with the ARM, because you can have it load/store data from/to memory in either big endian or little endian fashion, depending upon how the chip is configured. No such choice exists for the x86 platform.
Whether ARM makes a good platform for AmigaOS is a completely different question altogether. It may not be a good choice.Last edited by olsen on 13-Oct-2010 at 08:16 AM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 9:47:43
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| @olsen Quote:
because you can have it load/store data from/to memory in either big endian or little endian fashion, depending upon how the chip is configured. No such choice exists for the x86 platform. |
Sure there is: Didn't Martin Blom create a version of x86 GCC (for Amithlon) which made memory accesses look Big Endian? Yes that add's some overhead, but I think that'd be more than balanced out by the extra speed you get from x86.
P.S. I was surprised to read that FFS2 was also used by MorphOS. Not sure that OS4 uses any MOS components?Last edited by ChrisH on 13-Oct-2010 at 11:01 AM. Last edited by ChrisH on 13-Oct-2010 at 11:01 AM.
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Re: Interview with Olaf Barthel Posted on 13-Oct-2010 10:06:17
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